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Washington ESD unemployment benefits - calculated on gross wages or net?

I'm trying to figure out how much my weekly unemployment benefit will be through Washington ESD. My gross pay was around $4,200 monthly at my last job, but after taxes and deductions I only took home about $3,100. When they calculate my weekly benefit amount, do they use the gross wages or the net amount? I want to make sure I understand what to expect before my claim gets processed.

Washington ESD uses your gross wages for calculating benefits, not your take-home pay. They look at your highest quarter earnings from your base period and use that gross amount for the calculation.

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Thanks! So they don't consider what I actually received after taxes and stuff?

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Nope, it's all based on gross wages reported by your employer to Washington ESD. The tax withholdings don't factor into the benefit calculation at all.

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Yeah it's definitely gross wages. I was making $5,800 gross but only taking home like $4,200 after everything. My weekly benefit ended up being calculated off the full gross amount which was nice.

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That's reassuring to hear! Did you have any issues with Washington ESD getting your wage information?

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No issues at all. The wage info from my employer was already in their system when I filed my claim.

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Just went through this myself. Had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to verify my benefit amount calculation. Tried calling for weeks with no luck. Finally used Claimyr to get connected to an actual agent who walked me through exactly how they calculated my benefits using my gross wages. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it worked great for me. Saved me hours of trying to call on my own and getting busy signals or hung up on.

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I might need to try that if I have questions about my calculation. The phone system is impossible to get through to.

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The formula Washington ESD uses is pretty straightforward once you understand it. They take your highest quarter of gross wages from your base period, divide by 26, then multiply by your state's replacement ratio. For Washington that's typically around 50% but can vary based on your earnings level.

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What if you had overtime pay included in that highest quarter? Does that get counted as gross wages too?

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Yes, overtime is included in your gross wages for the calculation. Any wages reported on your W-2 would be part of the gross amount.

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wait so if i made 60k gross last year but only brought home like 45k after taxes, they use the 60k number??

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That's right. Washington ESD only looks at the gross wages your employer reported, not what you actually received in your bank account.

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thats actually better than i thought it would be then

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This is really helpful everyone. I was worried they'd use my net pay and my benefits would be super low. Good to know it's based on gross!

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Just remember you'll still have to pay taxes on your unemployment benefits when you file your return next year.

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Oh right, I forgot about that. Can you have taxes withheld from the weekly payments?

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Does anyone know if bonuses count toward gross wages for Washington ESD calculations? I got a year-end bonus that would bump up my highest quarter significantly.

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Yes, bonuses are typically included as long as they were reported as wages on your W-2. They're part of your gross compensation.

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Perfect, that should help my benefit amount then. Thanks!

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Been on unemployment twice in the past few years and both times Washington ESD used my gross wages. The calculation is always based on what your employer reported to them, not your take-home pay after deductions.

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How long did it take for your benefits to get approved both times?

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First time was pretty quick, maybe 2 weeks. Second time took over a month because they had to do some kind of adjudication review.

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This whole system is confusing. Why can't Washington ESD just make this information clearer on their website?

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I agree, their website is not user-friendly at all. Had to dig through multiple pages just to find basic info about benefit calculations.

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The Washington ESD website has gotten better over the years but it's still pretty clunky compared to other state agencies.

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Pro tip: You can see your quarterly wage information in your Washington ESD account under the wage and benefit history section. That'll show you exactly what gross wages they have on file for your calculation.

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I'll check that out once my account is fully set up. Still waiting for my claim to be processed.

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Yeah it takes a few days after you file for all the information to populate in your account.

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Had a similar question when I filed last year. Ended up using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD because I couldn't reach anyone by phone. The agent confirmed they use gross wages and explained the whole calculation process. Worth it if you need to speak with someone directly.

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How much does that service cost? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks with no success.

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It's pretty reasonable considering how much time it saves. Check out their site at claimyr.com for details.

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Washington ESD definitely uses gross wages. I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims regularly. The wage information we submit to the state is always gross pay before any deductions.

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That's good to know from the employer side. Do you know if there's ever any issues with the wage reporting that could affect someone's benefit calculation?

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Sometimes there can be delays in reporting or corrections needed, but Washington ESD usually reaches out to employers directly if there are discrepancies.

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Just to confirm what everyone else is saying - it's gross wages all the way. Filed my claim last month and my benefit amount was calculated using my full gross pay, not what I took home after health insurance and 401k deductions.

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Did you have any trouble with the weekly claims process after your initial claim was approved?

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No issues with the weekly claims. Just make sure you file on time every week and report any work or income accurately.

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For anyone still confused about this, the Washington ESD handbook specifically states that benefit calculations are based on gross wages earned during your base period. It's on page 12 of their claimant handbook if you want to read it directly from the source.

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Thanks for the page reference! I'll look that up to make sure I understand everything correctly.

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Where can you find that handbook? I couldn't locate it on their website.

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It should be available in your Washington ESD online account once you create one, or you can request a copy when you file your claim.

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This thread has been super helpful! I was stressing about my benefit amount but knowing it's based on gross wages makes me feel much better about what to expect.

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Same here. I was doing calculations based on my net pay and was worried I wouldn't get enough to cover my basic expenses.

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Exactly! This has put my mind at ease about the whole process.

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One more thing to keep in mind - if you had multiple jobs, Washington ESD will use the combined gross wages from all employers during your base period for the calculation. So if you were working part-time at two places, both incomes count toward your benefit amount.

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Good point! I had forgotten about my second part-time job from last year. That should help my calculation.

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Yeah, as long as the employers reported the wages to Washington ESD, they'll be included in your base period earnings.

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Just want to add that if you think there's an error in your wage information or benefit calculation, you can appeal it. I had to do this once when Washington ESD was missing wages from one of my previous employers. Used Claimyr to get through to them and got it sorted out pretty quickly.

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How long did the appeal process take? I think my calculation might be off too.

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It took about 3 weeks total, but most of that time was waiting for my former employer to respond with the missing wage information.

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Thanks everyone for all the info! This has cleared up a lot of confusion I had about how Washington ESD calculates benefits. Definitely feel more prepared for when my claim gets processed.

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Agreed! This community is so helpful for navigating all the unemployment stuff.

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For sure. Washington ESD can be confusing but forums like this make it much easier to understand.

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This thread has been incredibly informative! I just wanted to add that for anyone who's still waiting for their claim to be processed, you can actually estimate your weekly benefit amount ahead of time using the gross wage information from your pay stubs. Washington typically replaces about 50% of your average weekly wage (calculated from your highest quarter), but there's a maximum weekly benefit amount that gets updated each year. Having a rough estimate helped me budget while I was waiting for my official determination letter.

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