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Micah Franklin

Washington ESD says I'm 'not ineligible' - what does not ineligible mean for unemployment?

I just got a determination letter from Washington ESD and it says I'm 'not ineligible' for unemployment benefits. This is confusing me - does 'not ineligible' mean I'm approved or denied? The language is so backwards and I can't figure out if this is good news or bad news. Has anyone else gotten this weird wording before? I've been waiting 3 weeks for this decision and now I'm more confused than ever.

Not ineligible means you ARE eligible! It's just Washington ESD's confusing double-negative way of saying you qualify for benefits. So yes, this is good news - you should be approved.

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Thank you! That makes sense now. Why do they use such confusing language? Nearly gave me a heart attack.

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seriously the worst way to phrase it, i thought i was denied too when i got that letter

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Yeah, Washington ESD uses double negatives in their determinations. 'Not ineligible' = eligible. 'Not disqualified' = qualified. It's backwards but that's how they write it. Your benefits should start processing now.

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So I should start getting payments soon? Do I still need to file my weekly claims?

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Yes, you still need to file your weekly claims every week. The determination just means you qualify, but you have to keep filing to actually get paid.

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I've been trying to call Washington ESD about my claim status for weeks but can never get through. The phone lines are always busy or I get disconnected. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there?

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I had the same problem until I found Claimyr (claimyr.com). They help you get through to Washington ESD agents without having to sit on hold forever. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of calling.

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wait so if it says 'not ineligible' that means im good?? ive been freaking out about this for days thinking i got denied

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Yes, you're good! Not ineligible = eligible. Washington ESD just uses confusing language.

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omg thank you i was about to have a panic attack

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The Washington ESD determination letters are written by lawyers who apparently never learned to communicate clearly. 'Not ineligible' is their way of saying you meet all the requirements for unemployment benefits.

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Why can't they just say 'eligible' or 'approved'? This is so unnecessarily confusing.

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It's because they're stating you don't meet any of the disqualification criteria, rather than stating you meet qualification criteria. Legal language is backwards.

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I got that same letter last month and it took me reading it three times to figure out it was actually good news! Washington ESD really needs to fix their communication.

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Right? I was so confused I almost called them to ask what it meant.

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Good luck getting through if you do call. I tried for two weeks straight.

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Here's what the different determinations mean: 'Not ineligible' = you qualify, 'Not disqualified' = you qualify, 'Ineligible' = you don't qualify, 'Disqualified' = you don't qualify. Washington ESD loves their double negatives.

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This is super helpful, thank you! Should I save this for future reference?

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Definitely save it. These determination letters come up throughout your claim period and the language never gets clearer.

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wish they'd just use plain english like normal people

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Congratulations! Not ineligible means you're approved. Now make sure you file your weekly claims on time and keep doing your job search requirements. Don't let this approval go to waste.

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How many job applications do I need to do each week? The letter mentions job search but doesn't give specifics.

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You need to do 3 job search activities per week and keep a log. Check the Washington ESD website for the full requirements.

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ugh washington esd is the worst with their confusing letters. i spent hours trying to figure out what mine meant too

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At least we figured it out! I was starting to think they did it on purpose.

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honestly wouldn't surprise me if they did lol

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Same thing happened to me with the confusing wording. I actually used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD and confirm what it meant. The agent explained that 'not ineligible' is just their standard legal phrasing for approved claims.

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Did Claimyr actually help you get through? I might need to try that.

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Yeah, it worked great. Got connected to an agent in about 20 minutes instead of calling all day. Worth checking out their demo video if you need to talk to Washington ESD.

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Just wanted to add that once you get the 'not ineligible' determination, your first payment usually comes within a week if you've been filing your weekly claims. Don't forget to keep filing even while waiting for the money to show up.

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Good to know! I've been filing weekly but wasn't sure if I should keep doing it during adjudication.

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Always keep filing unless they specifically tell you to stop. Missing weekly claims can mess up your benefits.

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Washington ESD determination letters should come with a translation guide. 'Not ineligible' is about as clear as mud when you're stressed about money.

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Seriously! I was already worried about bills and then got this confusing letter that made it worse.

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At least now you know it's good news. Time to breathe easier!

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Pro tip: whenever you get a determination from Washington ESD, look for the words 'eligible' or 'qualified' somewhere in the letter. If it says 'not ineligible' or 'not disqualified' those are both good things.

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That's a great way to remember it. I'll keep that in mind for future letters.

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Yeah, it takes the guesswork out. Washington ESD loves their confusing language but once you know the pattern it's easier.

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i thought i was going crazy when i got that letter. glad im not the only one who was confused by the double negative thing

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You're definitely not crazy! It's a terrible way to communicate important information.

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right?? like just say approved or denied and make it simple

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This thread is so helpful! I've been sitting here with my determination letter trying to figure out if 'not ineligible' was good or bad news. Thanks everyone for explaining it.

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Glad this helped you too! Hopefully Washington ESD will fix their confusing language someday.

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Probably not anytime soon but at least we can help each other figure it out!

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For anyone still confused: 'Not ineligible' means you ARE eligible for benefits. It's Washington ESD's backwards way of saying you qualify. Your benefits should start processing now that you have this determination.

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Perfect summary! This should be pinned at the top of every Washington ESD forum.

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Agreed. Way too many people get confused by this same wording issue.

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Washington ESD customer service told me that 'not ineligible' is the standard wording they use for approved claims. Took me forever to get through to them to ask, but at least I got a clear answer. Might be worth calling if you need more details about your specific claim.

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How did you manage to get through to them? I can never reach anyone.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Made it way easier than trying to call myself.

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I'm skeptical about using a third party service for this stuff but if it actually works...

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I was skeptical too but it worked fine. They just help you get connected, they don't handle your personal info or anything.

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This exact same thing happened to me last year! I got the "not ineligible" letter and spent the whole day thinking I was denied until my neighbor explained it to me. It's honestly cruel how confusing they make something so important when people are already stressed about money. Congrats on your approval though - that's great news! Just make sure to keep filing those weekly claims and doing your job search activities. The first payment should hit your account within a week or two.

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