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Jean Claude

Washington ESD overpayment notice - what is the ideal rate of unemployment benefits to avoid issues?

Got hit with a $2,800 overpayment notice from Washington ESD last week and I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong. I was working part-time while collecting UI and reported all my hours like I was supposed to. Now they're saying I earned too much in certain weeks and want the money back. What is the ideal rate of unemployment benefits compared to part-time work to avoid these overpayment situations? I thought as long as I reported everything honestly I'd be fine but apparently that's not enough. Has anyone else dealt with this and know what the safe earning limits are?

Charity Cohan

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The general rule is you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 before they start reducing your UI payment. So if your weekly benefit is $400, you can earn up to $395 without any reduction. Anything over that and they start dollar-for-dollar deductions.

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Jean Claude

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That's what I thought I was following but apparently I messed up somewhere. The overpayment notice is really confusing about which weeks were the problem.

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Josef Tearle

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Sometimes there are delays in when employers report wages to Washington ESD so what looks fine initially gets flagged later when all the data comes in.

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Shelby Bauman

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I've been through this exact situation. The key thing people miss is that Washington ESD looks at gross earnings, not net pay. So if you earned $300 but only took home $240 after taxes, they use the $300 figure for calculations.

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Jean Claude

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Oh wow I didn't realize that! I was looking at my take-home pay when I calculated whether I was under the limit.

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Quinn Herbert

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This is exactly why so many people get overpayment notices. The system isn't very clear about gross vs net.

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Salim Nasir

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Honestly the Washington ESD phone system is impossible to get through to ask these questions. I spent 3 hours on hold last month just to get disconnected. Someone told me about this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you actually reach an agent - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth trying to get a real explanation of your overpayment.

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Jean Claude

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Thanks, I'll check that out. I really need to talk to someone who can explain exactly which weeks were problematic.

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Hazel Garcia

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I used Claimyr too when I had an adjudication issue. Way better than sitting on hold forever just to get hung up on.

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Laila Fury

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there's no ideal rate really, it all depends on your specific weekly benefit amount and what you earn each week. the system is designed so you can work part time but if you earn too much in any given week you lose benefits for that week

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Jean Claude

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Right but I'm trying to figure out how to avoid overpayments in the future. There has to be some safe guidelines to follow.

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Charity Cohan

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The safest approach is to keep detailed records of all earnings and double-check the math yourself before submitting weekly claims.

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The Washington ESD system is set up to fail claimants honestly. They make the rules so complicated and then hit you with overpayments when you make honest mistakes. I got an overpayment notice for $1,200 even though I reported everything correctly - turned out their computer system had a glitch.

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Jean Claude

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How did you prove it was their mistake? Did you have to appeal?

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Yeah I had to file an appeal and it took 6 months to get resolved. Ridiculous.

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Simon White

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This is why I keep screenshots of everything I submit. Cover your butt because they sure won't.

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Quinn Herbert

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For anyone dealing with overpayments - you have 30 days to appeal from the date on the notice. Don't wait because they'll start trying to collect the money immediately.

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Jean Claude

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Good to know. I'm definitely going to appeal this because I followed all the rules as I understood them.

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Hugo Kass

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Make sure you gather all your pay stubs and documentation before filing the appeal. They want proof of everything.

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Nasira Ibanez

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I think the 'ideal rate' you're asking about is really about staying under your weekly benefit amount minus $5. But honestly even that can get tricky with things like tips, bonuses, or irregular schedules.

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Jean Claude

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Yeah I had some weeks where my hours varied a lot which probably confused things.

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Shelby Bauman

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Variable schedules are the worst for this. You really have to track everything week by week, not monthly averages.

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Josef Tearle

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Same thing happened to my brother last year. Turns out his employer reported his wages late to Washington ESD so weeks that looked fine initially got flagged months later when the wage data finally came through.

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Jean Claude

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That might be what happened to me too. The overpayment notice mentions weeks from 4 months ago.

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Khalil Urso

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Employers have up to a year to report wages I think, so this stuff can come up way later unfortunately.

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Myles Regis

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honestly there is no ideal rate because the whole system is designed to screw over working people. they want you desperate and willing to take any job at any wage

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Brian Downey

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While I get the frustration, the part-time work rules are actually designed to help people transition back to full-time work gradually.

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Myles Regis

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tell that to everyone getting hit with overpayment notices for honest mistakes

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Hazel Garcia

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When I had my overpayment issue I used Claimyr to get through to an actual Washington ESD agent who could explain what went wrong. Way better than trying to decipher their confusing notices on your own.

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Jean Claude

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I'm definitely going to try that. I need someone to walk me through exactly what they think I did wrong.

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Jacinda Yu

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How much does that service cost? Is it worth it for smaller overpayment amounts?

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Hazel Garcia

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I think it's reasonable compared to the stress of trying to figure this stuff out alone. Check their site for current info.

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The safest approach is to earn significantly less than your weekly benefit amount if you want to avoid any issues. I kept my part-time earnings to about 60% of my weekly benefit and never had problems.

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Jean Claude

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That's probably smart but hard to do when you need the income. I was trying to maximize what I could earn legally.

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Callum Savage

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Yeah the catch-22 is you need the money but earning too much gets you in trouble. System is broken.

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Ally Tailer

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Keep all your documentation! Pay stubs, time sheets, anything showing what you earned and when. You'll need it for the appeal process.

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Jean Claude

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Thankfully I kept everything. Going to gather it all up for my appeal.

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Smart. The burden of proof is on you to show they made a mistake unfortunately.

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The real issue is Washington ESD's computer systems don't talk to each other properly. Your weekly claims go into one system but employer wage reports go into another and sometimes there are months of delay before they cross-reference everything.

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Jean Claude

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That would explain why this is just coming up now for wages from months ago.

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Cass Green

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Exactly. And by the time they figure out there's a 'discrepancy' you've already spent the money they now want back.

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I know someone who got an overpayment notice reversed by using that Claimyr service to reach an agent who actually reviewed their case properly. Sometimes it's just a matter of getting someone competent to look at your file.

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Jean Claude

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That gives me hope. I really think this is a mistake on their end.

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Madison Tipne

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Worth trying before you go through the whole appeal process which can take forever.

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Bottom line - report everything accurately and keep records of what you report. If you still get an overpayment notice, appeal it if you think it's wrong. Don't just accept it.

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Jean Claude

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much more confident about appealing this now.

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Malia Ponder

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Good luck! Hopefully it's just a system error that can be cleared up quickly.

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