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Carmen Vega

Washington ESD employer appeal deadline - how long does employer have to appeal unemployment?

My former boss just found out I was approved for unemployment benefits and he's furious. He's threatening to appeal my claim because he says I was fired for cause (which isn't true - I was laid off due to budget cuts). Does anyone know how long employers have to file an appeal with Washington ESD? I'm worried he's going to try to mess up my benefits even though my claim was already approved last month.

Employers have 30 days from the date they receive the initial determination notice to file an appeal with Washington ESD. If your claim was approved last month, they probably missed their window unless they just got notified recently.

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That's what I was hoping! My claim was approved 6 weeks ago so hopefully it's too late for him to do anything about it.

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Actually employers can sometimes get extensions if they can prove they never received the notice. Don't count on being safe just yet.

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Yeah the 30-day rule is firm but Washington ESD does send notices to employers at their last known address. If your employer moved or changed their mailing info and didn't update it with the state, they might be able to argue they never got proper notice.

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Oh great, that's exactly what I was worried about. The company did move offices about 3 months ago.

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Even if they get an extension, they still have to prove you were fired for misconduct. Being laid off due to budget cuts definitely doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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I had a similar situation where my employer tried to appeal after missing the deadline. Washington ESD was pretty strict about the 30-day rule. The employer has to file Form 1000A within that timeframe or they lose their chance to appeal. If you're really worried about it, you could try calling Washington ESD to check the status but good luck getting through on the phone.

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Getting through to Washington ESD by phone is impossible! I've been trying for weeks to talk to someone about my own claim issues. The hold times are insane.

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Wait, your employer is threatening to appeal because he's mad you got benefits? That's not how this works. Employers can only appeal if they believe the determination was wrong based on the facts of your separation. Being angry doesn't give them grounds for an appeal.

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He's claiming I was fired for poor performance but that's not true at all. I have documentation showing it was a layoff due to company restructuring.

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Keep that documentation handy! If he does manage to file an appeal, you'll need to present evidence at the hearing. Poor performance isn't even misconduct unless it was willful.

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Exactly - there's a big difference between being unable to do the job and willfully violating company policy. Washington ESD knows this distinction.

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This whole system is so messed up. Employers shouldn't be able to appeal just because they don't want to pay higher unemployment taxes. It's like they want to punish people for losing their jobs through no fault of their own.

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The appeal process exists for a reason though. Sometimes people do get benefits when they shouldn't, like if they quit without good cause or were actually fired for misconduct.

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I guess, but it seems like most employer appeals are just them being petty rather than having legitimate grounds.

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From what I understand, even if your employer files an appeal within the deadline, you'll continue receiving benefits during the appeal process as long as you keep filing your weekly claims. The appeal hearing can take months to schedule.

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That's good to know. At least I won't lose my benefits immediately even if he does appeal.

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Just make sure you keep filing those weekly claims and doing your job search activities. Missing even one weekly claim can mess up your whole case.

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment appeals regularly. The 30-day deadline is pretty strict, but Washington ESD will sometimes accept late appeals if the employer can show good cause for the delay. However, budget cuts and layoffs are rarely grounds for denying benefits unless there were performance issues leading up to it.

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There weren't any performance issues at all. I actually got a good review just two months before the layoff.

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Then you should be fine even if there is an appeal. Keep that performance review as evidence along with any layoff documentation you have.

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ugh employers are the worst. mine tried to fight my claim too even tho they laid off half the company. some people just can't stand seeing others get help

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Right? It's like they take it personally when you file for unemployment benefits you're legally entitled to.

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The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD makes the final decision based on the facts, not on what either party wants. If you were truly laid off due to budget cuts and have documentation proving it, you're in good shape regardless of any appeal.

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Thanks, that makes me feel better. I do have the official layoff notice they gave me.

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That layoff notice is gold. Make copies and keep them safe in case you need them for a hearing.

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I had an employer appeal my claim after missing the initial deadline. They claimed they never got the notice because their address changed. Washington ESD granted them an extension but I still won the appeal hearing because I had all my documentation ready. The whole process took about 4 months though.

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Four months?! That's a long time to be worried about losing benefits.

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I kept getting benefits during the appeal process though, so it wasn't too bad financially. Just stressful not knowing the outcome.

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If you're really concerned about your employer's appeal or need to check on the status, I'd recommend using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. I used them when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my adjudication issues and they got me connected to an agent the same day. Way better than spending hours on hold.

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Is that service legit? Sounds too good to be true.

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Yeah it's real. They basically handle all the calling and waiting for you. Saved me so much time and frustration dealing with Washington ESD phone system.

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The bottom line is that employers have 30 days from receiving their determination notice to appeal. After that, they need to show good cause for any delay. Even if they do appeal, being laid off for budget reasons is usually pretty clear-cut for maintaining benefits.

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Appreciate everyone's help on this. I feel much more confident about my situation now.

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Good luck! Hope your employer doesn't cause you any more stress over this.

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Just wanted to add that if there is an appeal hearing scheduled, you'll get plenty of notice in advance. Washington ESD will send you paperwork explaining your rights and what to bring to the hearing. Don't panic if it happens - you've got this!

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Thanks for the encouragement! Hopefully it won't come to that but good to know what to expect.

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One more thing - if your employer does file an appeal and you end up at a hearing, consider having a witness if possible. Someone who was there during the layoffs or can speak to your work performance. It really helps your case.

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Good idea. A few coworkers were also laid off at the same time, so they could probably testify about the circumstances.

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Perfect. Having multiple witnesses who can confirm it was a layoff rather than a firing will strengthen your position significantly.

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I went through something similar last year and my employer missed the appeal deadline by about a week. Washington ESD stuck to the 30-day rule and wouldn't accept the late appeal. Sometimes the system actually works in our favor!

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That gives me hope! Fingers crossed my employer missed his chance too.

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Another option if you want peace of mind is to use Claimyr to call Washington ESD and verify the appeal status on your claim. They can get you through to someone who can check if any appeals have been filed. Much easier than trying to navigate the phone system yourself.

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That's actually a really smart idea. Better to know for sure rather than just worrying about it.

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Yeah I might look into that. The uncertainty is killing me.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now where my former employer is making threats about appealing my unemployment claim. From what I've researched, Washington ESD is pretty strict about that 30-day deadline, but employers can sometimes get extensions if they can prove they never received proper notice. The good news is that even if they do appeal, you'll keep receiving benefits during the process as long as you continue filing your weekly claims. Since you have documentation showing it was a layoff due to budget cuts rather than a firing for cause, you should be in a strong position if it comes to a hearing. Don't let your employer intimidate you - you're entitled to these benefits!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone going through the same thing. The intimidation tactics are the worst part - like they're trying to scare us out of benefits we legitimately earned. I'm glad to know the documentation I have should be enough to protect me if there is a hearing. Hope your situation works out too!

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I'm going through something similar too - my former employer is also making threats about appealing even though my separation was clearly documented as a layoff. It's so stressful dealing with these intimidation tactics on top of already being unemployed. What I've learned from reading through this thread is that having solid documentation is key, and the 30-day deadline really does matter. I'm keeping all my paperwork organized just in case. Thanks for the encouragement - we've got to stick together and not let employers bully us out of benefits we're legally entitled to!

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I've been following this thread and it's really helpful to see everyone's experiences! I'm actually in a similar boat - my employer laid me off three months ago citing "restructuring" but now they're angry that I'm getting benefits. What's crazy is they keep flip-flopping between saying I was laid off versus fired, which just shows they don't have their story straight. From everything I've read here, it sounds like the key is having that paper trail. I saved my layoff letter and all the emails about the company restructuring, so hopefully that'll be enough if they try anything. It's ridiculous that we have to deal with this stress when we're already struggling to find new jobs!

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