Military spouse PCS move - when can I quit job and still qualify for ESD unemployment?

Yes, military spouses can qualify for UI benefits in WA when they leave employment due to their spouse's military transfer. It's under the "good cause quit" provisions. As for timing, technically you should work as close to the actual move as reasonably possible. Quitting 2 months early might be stretching it unless you can document specific reasons why that much preparation time was necessary. ESD generally expects you to work until it becomes necessary to leave for the transfer. A few weeks before the move is typically considered reasonable, but 2 months might trigger additional scrutiny. Make sure to keep copies of the official military orders and documentation of your marriage when you file.

my sister went through this last yr when they pcs'd from everett to san diego... she quit like 6 wks before the move and got approved no problem!!! just make sure u have the official orders to upload when u file ur claim. i think theres a question specifically about military spouse on the application.

I process military spouse claims for ESD (not officially, but as part of my job). Here's the straight answer: the law doesn't specify an exact timeframe, but generally anything beyond 30 days before the move will require additional justification. The key is documenting WHY you need that much time. Things that help justify longer pre-move departures: - School-age children needing enrollment in new district - Housing search requirements (especially in tight markets) - Special needs family members requiring advance arrangements - Complex logistics (multiple vehicles, etc.) When you file, there's a section for additional information where you can explain your specific situation. Be detailed about why you need to quit when you do. If your claim gets flagged for adjudication, you'll have a chance to provide this information again. If you've worked at your job for at least 680 hours in your base year and have good documentation, you should be fine with a reasonable timeframe.

Military spouses do have special qualification provisions, but there are still requirements and expectations. Nine weeks is quite far in advance, so ESD might question whether quitting that early was necessary. When you file, be very specific about why you needed to leave that far ahead of the move. If your claim goes to adjudication (which it likely will with that timeline), be prepared to provide detailed reasons and documentation. To clarify for everyone: Military spouse status gives you a qualifying reason to voluntarily quit, but you still need to have worked enough qualifying hours and meet other normal eligibility requirements. It's not automatic approval regardless of circumstances.

I just went through this when my wife got transferred from JBLM to Hawaii. I had to FIGHT with ESD for months because I quit 7 weeks before our move and some bureaucrat decided that was "too early" despite me explaining we had kids, pets, and a whole house to deal with. They denied my initial claim and I had to appeal. TOTAL NIGHTMARE. The system is designed to make you give up!!

Yeah I finally got approved after THREE MONTHS of back and forth. Had to do a phone hearing with a judge and everything. By then we were already in Hawaii and I'd found a new job so I only got partial benefits. If I could do it over I would've documented EVERYTHING about why I needed to quit when I did and had my wife's commander write a letter supporting the timeline. Don't let them push you around!

If you're having trouble getting through to ESD to discuss your claim specifics, I'd recommend trying Claimyr. I used it last month when my military spouse claim was stuck in adjudication. It got me through to an actual ESD agent in about 15 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The agent was able to see exactly what was causing the hold-up on my claim and told me what additional documentation I needed to provide. Saved me weeks of waiting for letters in the mail. Their website is claimyr.com

Yes, it really does work. I was skeptical too, but after trying for two weeks to get through on my own, I was desperate. It connected me within 15 minutes. The ESD agent I spoke with said they're completely swamped with calls, which is why it's so hard to get through normally.

Hey I just wanted to add something important about military spouse unemployment claims - make sure you keep claiming every week even if your claim is pending or in adjudication! I didn't realize this when we PCS'd last year and lost out on several weeks of benefits because I stopped filing during the time my claim was being reviewed. You won't get paid until they approve your claim, but they won't pay you for weeks you didn't submit a claim for.

This is an excellent question about job search requirements. For military spouse claims, you should indicate on your weekly claims that you're preparing for a military move until you actually relocate. Once you've moved to North Carolina, you can apply for an out-of-area job search exemption through your ESD account or by calling them. Continue to file weekly claims throughout this period, but be accurate about your situation. There's a specific question about whether you're able and available for work - in the weeks immediately preceding your move when you're actively relocating, you can answer "no" and provide the military move as the reason. Just be aware this may temporarily pause your benefits until you're settled and available for work again.

Thank you all for the helpful advice! I think I'll aim to quit about 4-5 weeks before our move and document EVERYTHING about why I need that time (school registration, housing search, etc.). I'll also get a supporting letter from my husband's commander just to be safe. And I'll make sure to keep filing weekly claims even during adjudication. This is all so helpful - the ESD website is really vague about the specifics for military spouses.

Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this process twice! First PCS from JBLM to Fort Carson - I quit 3 weeks early and had zero issues. Second move from Fort Carson to Norfolk - I quit 6 weeks early because we had to find housing in a really competitive market and ESD initially flagged it but approved it after I provided documentation. The key things that helped me both times: 1. Keep detailed records of EVERYTHING - emails about housing searches, school enrollment deadlines, moving company estimates, etc. 2. Get a memo from your spouse's unit explaining the move timeline and any special circumstances 3. Take screenshots of rental listings showing how competitive the housing market is at your new duty station 4. If you have kids, get documentation from schools showing enrollment deadlines Also pro tip: start your claim the day after your last day of work, don't wait! The sooner you file, the sooner the clock starts on any potential adjudication period. And yes, definitely keep filing weekly claims even if it's pending - learned that the hard way on my first PCS. Military families sacrifice enough without having to stress about unemployment benefits we're legally entitled to. Document everything and don't let them intimidate you!

I'm going through a similar situation right now! My husband just got orders from JBLM to Fort Bragg and I've been stressing about the unemployment timing too. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring - it sounds like 4-6 weeks before the move is generally acceptable if you have good documentation. One thing I learned from talking to other military spouses is that ESD seems to be more understanding if you can show you tried to work with your employer on flexible arrangements first. I'm planning to ask my boss if I can work remotely for a few weeks after we move, and if they say no, I'll document that conversation. That way it shows I made a good faith effort to keep working as long as possible. Also, has anyone had experience with getting unemployment while house hunting trips? We need to make at least two trips to North Carolina before our final move and I'm wondering if I should take unpaid leave for those or just quit beforehand.

I went through this exact situation when we PCS'd from JBLM to Fort Hood last year! I ended up quitting 5 weeks before our move and had no issues with my claim getting approved. Here's what I learned: The most important thing is having rock-solid documentation. I created a whole folder with: - Copy of my husband's official PCS orders - Our marriage certificate - Screenshots of housing listings in Texas showing how competitive the market was - Email exchanges with potential landlords/realtors - School enrollment deadlines for our kids - A timeline I wrote out explaining why I needed each week leading up to the move When I filed my claim, there's a section where you can upload documents and provide additional explanation. I uploaded everything and wrote a detailed explanation of our timeline and why 5 weeks was necessary given our family situation. My claim went into adjudication for about 2 weeks, then got approved without any phone interviews or additional requests. I think the key was being proactive with documentation upfront rather than waiting for them to ask for it. Also, don't stress too much about the exact timing - ESD understands military families have unique challenges. Just be honest, document everything, and file your claim as soon as possible after your last day of work. You've got this!

My husband got orders for a PCS move from NAS Whidbey to NAS JAX. He is getting ready to leave on deployment and coming back in December sometime for the move. We have 2 children. I work full time. We will lose our daycare provider in November which I will now have to resign from my position. Then we PCS. My question is when can I apply for PMFLA for the deployment and then when can I apply for Unemployment. Or do I just apply for unemployment. There is not much information on what to do. This time around it seems so complicated compared to the other PCS moves. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!!!

This is a complex situation with both deployment and PCS factors! You're dealing with two separate qualifying events, so let me break this down: For the deployment piece - PFML (Paid Family and Medical Leave) has a "family leave" provision that may apply when your spouse deploys, but it's typically for bonding/care situations rather than childcare logistics. You'd need to check if losing your daycare provider due to deployment qualifies, but it's not guaranteed. For the PCS unemployment - You can absolutely apply for unemployment benefits when you quit due to the PCS move. The fact that you're losing daycare in November and then PCSing shortly after actually strengthens your case for quitting in November rather than waiting until the actual move date. Losing essential childcare due to military circumstances is solid documentation for your "good cause" quit. My recommendation: Focus on the unemployment benefits for the PCS move rather than trying to navigate PFML for the deployment. When you file your UI claim after quitting in November, document: - Your husband's PCS orders to NAS JAX - Your marriage certificate - Documentation that your daycare provider is unavailable during his deployment - Evidence that you need to prepare for the December PCS move with two kids This creates a clear timeline showing you had to quit due to interconnected military circumstances. Keep filing weekly claims even if it goes to adjudication, and be detailed about your specific situation when you apply.