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Yuki Ito

Is unemployment considered a public benefit in Washington state?

I'm filling out some paperwork for housing assistance and they're asking about all public benefits I receive. I'm currently getting unemployment through Washington ESD - does this count as a public benefit? I don't want to answer wrong and mess up my application. Also wondering if this affects anything with my UI claim status or weekly certifications.

Yes, unemployment insurance is definitely considered a public benefit. It's funded through employer taxes and administered by the state, so it counts. You should list it on your housing application.

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Thanks! Should I list the weekly amount or my total benefits received so far?

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Usually they want your weekly benefit amount. Check if the form specifies monthly or weekly - most want the ongoing weekly payment.

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wait is this gonna affect my food stamps? i just started getting UI last month and didnt think about reporting it

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You need to report unemployment income to DSHS for food assistance. It's considered income and could affect your benefit amount. Contact them ASAP to update your case.

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Had this same question when I was dealing with Washington ESD last year. Unemployment is absolutely a public benefit - it's government assistance funded by taxes. Been trying to get through to ESD about my claim status but their phone lines are impossible.

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Mei Lin

TECHNICALLY unemployment insurance isn't welfare - you and your employers paid into the system through payroll taxes. But for most applications asking about public benefits, yes you need to report it. It's income from a government program.

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This is an important distinction! UI is an earned benefit but still counts as public assistance for most purposes.

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Right, it's not like TANF or other welfare programs but housing applications usually lump all government income together.

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been on unemployment for 6 months now and every form i fill out wants to know about it so yeah definitely counts as public benefit

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Did you have any issues with other benefit applications because of reporting UI?

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nah just had to provide my 1099-G from Washington ESD showing how much i got for the year

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For housing applications specifically, unemployment income is treated the same as any other income source. The fact that it's temporary doesn't matter - they want to see your current ability to pay rent.

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Good point about it being temporary. Some landlords are hesitant about UI income but legally they can't discriminate.

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Actually had a landlord reject me because I was on unemployment. Is that even legal?

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The IRS considers unemployment income taxable, and any government program that provides income support is generally considered a public benefit for application purposes.

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Don't forget you'll get a 1099-G from Washington ESD at tax time showing all your unemployment income for the year.

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I work for a housing nonprofit and we always count unemployment as income when determining eligibility. It's government assistance even though it's earned through work history.

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That's really helpful to know from someone who sees these applications regularly!

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Do you know if extended benefits or standby unemployment are treated differently?

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All unemployment types through Washington ESD are treated the same for our income calculations - regular UI, standby, everything.

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Just make sure when you report it that you're clear about whether it's weekly or monthly amounts. I made that mistake once and had to redo my whole application.

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Yeah read the form carefully - some want gross income, others want net after taxes.

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Quick question - if I'm on standby unemployment through my employer, does that count the same way as regular UI benefits?

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Yes, standby unemployment is still processed through Washington ESD and counts as public benefit income just like regular unemployment.

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Standby is actually really common in Washington with seasonal industries. Same rules apply for reporting it.

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Been dealing with Washington ESD for months trying to sort out an overpayment issue and this question never even occurred to me. Good thing I saw this thread before filling out my rental application.

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I'll check that out, thanks. This overpayment notice makes no sense and I can't get anyone on the phone to explain it.

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The bottom line is if it's income from any government source, report it. Better to over-report than get caught not disclosing something later.

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Exactly. Most applications have language about penalties for not reporting all income sources.

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I was confused about this too when I first started getting UI. My case worker at DSHS confirmed that unemployment counts as income for all their programs.

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Did they make you report it retroactively or just going forward?

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Just going forward thankfully, but they did adjust my food stamps amount based on the UI income.

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For anyone wondering about the legal definition - RCW 50.04 defines unemployment compensation as insurance benefits, but for practical purposes it's treated as public assistance income by most agencies.

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Thanks for the legal reference! That's helpful for understanding the distinction.

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Just went through this with my housing application last week. Listed my weekly UI amount and had no problems. They treated it just like any other income source.

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Good to hear it went smoothly for you! Did they ask for any documentation from Washington ESD?

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They wanted my most recent payment statement from the ESD website showing my weekly benefit amount.

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One thing to keep in mind - some programs have different rules for temporary vs permanent income. Unemployment is obviously temporary but still counts as current income for most applications.

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That's a good point about the temporary nature. Some landlords worry about what happens when UI runs out.

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Is there a cost for using Claimyr or is it free?

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There's a fee but honestly it's worth it to avoid spending entire days trying to get through on the phone. The video demo explains how it works.

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Bottom line - unemployment through Washington ESD is definitely a public benefit that you need to report on housing and other benefit applications. Don't risk getting your application denied by leaving it off.

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Thanks everyone! This thread has been super helpful. I'll make sure to include my UI income on the housing application.

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