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Oliver Zimmermann

Is unemployment public assistance - Washington ESD classification question

I'm filling out some forms for housing assistance and they're asking if I receive 'public assistance.' I get regular unemployment benefits through Washington ESD - does this count as public assistance? I don't want to answer wrong and mess up my application. The form doesn't specifically mention unemployment so I'm not sure how to classify it.

Unemployment insurance isn't typically classified as public assistance since you paid into the system through payroll taxes. It's considered earned benefits, not welfare.

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That makes sense, thank you! So I should answer 'no' to the public assistance question?

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Correct, UI benefits are insurance benefits you earned through prior employment.

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Javier Torres

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I had this same question when applying for food stamps last year. The case worker told me unemployment doesn't count as public assistance.

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Good to know I'm not the only one confused about this!

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Emma Davis

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This comes up a lot. Unemployment insurance is funded by employer payroll taxes, not general tax revenue like traditional public assistance programs. When forms ask about public assistance, they're usually referring to TANF, food stamps, Medicaid - programs that are means-tested welfare benefits.

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CosmicCaptain

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What about if you're getting the extra federal extensions? Does that change anything?

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Emma Davis

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No, even extended benefits are still unemployment insurance, just funded differently. Still not public assistance.

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Malik Johnson

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I've been going through this exact situation trying to reach Washington ESD about my claim status for a rental assistance application. Couldn't get through their phone lines for weeks until I found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com - they actually got me connected to an agent who confirmed UI benefits aren't public assistance. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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How does that service work? I've been trying to call Washington ESD myself but keep getting busy signals.

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Malik Johnson

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They basically handle the calling for you and get you connected when an agent is available. Saved me hours of trying to get through.

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depends on what state your in tbh, some states classify it different

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Emma Davis

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We're talking about Washington state specifically - Washington ESD treats UI as insurance benefits, not public assistance.

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oh ok good to know

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Ravi Sharma

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The confusion comes from the fact that unemployment benefits do get reported as income on tax forms, but that doesn't make them public assistance. They're taxable income because they replace wages.

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That's a good point - just because it's income doesn't mean it's welfare.

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Javier Torres

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Make sure you check the specific definition on your housing form though. Some applications have their own weird definitions of what they consider assistance.

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Good advice - I'll read the fine print more carefully.

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True, but generally speaking UI is never classified as public assistance on standard government forms.

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CosmicCaptain

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I work for a nonprofit that helps people with benefit applications and we always tell clients that unemployment insurance is NOT public assistance. You earned those benefits through your work history.

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That's really reassuring to hear from someone who deals with this professionally!

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Malik Johnson

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Just wanted to follow up - I used Claimyr again this week to get through to Washington ESD about a different issue and they confirmed again that UI benefits don't count as public assistance for any applications I might fill out.

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Freya Thomsen

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How much does that service cost? Sounds too good to be true.

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Malik Johnson

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It's worth it when you consider how much time it saves versus calling Washington ESD directly. Check out their site for details.

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so basically unemployment = insurance, food stamps = public assistance. got it

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Emma Davis

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Exactly right. One you paid into, the other is needs-based assistance.

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Omar Zaki

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This is such an important distinction because it affects eligibility for other programs. Thanks for asking this question!

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You're welcome! I figured I couldn't be the only one wondering about this.

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Ravi Sharma

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For anyone else reading this - if you're ever unsure about how to classify your benefits on applications, it's always better to call the agency handling your application and ask directly rather than guess.

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Good point, though sometimes those agencies are just as hard to reach as Washington ESD!

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Malik Johnson

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That's exactly why services like Claimyr are so helpful - they cut through the phone system hassles.

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Final answer: Unemployment insurance benefits from Washington ESD are NOT public assistance. They're earned insurance benefits. Answer 'no' on your housing application.

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Perfect, thank you everyone for the clear answers!

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AstroAce

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been on unemployment 3 times over the years and never had to check the public assistance box on any forms

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That's good real-world confirmation, thanks!

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Emma Davis

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Just to add some context - public assistance programs are means-tested (they look at your assets and income to determine eligibility). Unemployment insurance eligibility is based on your work history and earnings, not your current financial need.

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CosmicCaptain

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That's a really clear way to explain the difference.

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Chloe Martin

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Had to deal with this when I was getting divorced and the lawyer needed to know all my income sources. UI benefits get listed as income but not as public assistance.

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Interesting, so it matters for income calculations but not for assistance classification.

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Freya Thomsen

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Why is this so confusing though? You'd think government forms would be clearer about what they mean by public assistance.

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Emma Davis

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Because different agencies use slightly different definitions, unfortunately. But UI being insurance rather than assistance is pretty universal.

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Malik Johnson

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One more thing - if anyone needs to verify this information directly with Washington ESD for their own applications, I really recommend checking out Claimyr. Much easier than trying to get through on your own.

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Thanks for the suggestion - I'll keep that in mind if I need to contact Washington ESD again.

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Diego Rojas

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This thread should be pinned somewhere - this question comes up constantly!

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Agreed! Hopefully it helps other people who are confused about this.

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Bottom line: You paid into unemployment insurance through your paychecks. It's your money being returned to you during unemployment, not government assistance.

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That's the clearest way to think about it - it's insurance I paid for, not a handout.

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