If you are fired can you get unemployment benefits in Washington?
My supervisor terminated me yesterday for what they called 'poor performance' but I think it was really because I questioned some safety issues at work. Can I still file for unemployment with Washington ESD if I was fired? I've heard conflicting information about whether you can get benefits if you're terminated vs if you quit. I'm really stressed about this because I have rent due next week and need to know if I should even bother applying.
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Ruby Blake
Yes, you can absolutely apply for unemployment even if you were fired! Being terminated doesn't automatically disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits. The key factor is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' - and poor performance usually doesn't count as misconduct unless it was willful or deliberate.
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Miles Hammonds
•That's a relief to hear. How do I know if what they fired me for counts as misconduct? They said I wasn't meeting productivity standards but I was trying my best.
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Ruby Blake
•Misconduct has to be willful violation of company policy or deliberate wrongdoing. Not being able to meet performance standards despite trying isn't misconduct - file your claim!
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Micah Franklin
I got fired from my last job too and still got benefits. Washington ESD looks at the reason behind the termination. If you weren't stealing, fighting, or doing drugs at work you're probably fine.
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Ella Harper
•How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the waiting period.
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Micah Franklin
•Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication to review the firing. But I got approved and even got back pay for those weeks.
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PrinceJoe
Definitely apply right away! Even if your employer contests it, you have rights. I had trouble getting through to Washington ESD when my claim went into adjudication after being fired. Kept calling for days and either got busy signals or got disconnected after waiting on hold. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made the whole process so much easier.
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Miles Hammonds
•Thanks for the tip! I'm definitely going to need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my situation since it's complicated.
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Brooklyn Knight
•Never heard of that service but honestly anything that helps get through to ESD sounds worth it. Their phone system is terrible.
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Owen Devar
The Washington ESD will investigate your termination during something called adjudication. They'll contact both you and your employer to get both sides of the story. Document everything about why you were fired and any evidence that shows it wasn't misconduct.
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Miles Hammonds
•Should I gather emails or write down what happened? I do have some texts from my supervisor about the performance issues.
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Owen Devar
•Yes! Keep everything - emails, texts, performance reviews, any documentation. Also write down dates and details while they're fresh in your memory.
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Daniel Rivera
•And if you mentioned safety issues, definitely document that too. Retaliation for safety complaints could actually work in your favor.
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Ella Harper
I'm so confused about all this. I thought if you got fired you couldn't get unemployment at all? This is all new to me and I'm panicking about money.
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Ruby Blake
•That's a common misconception! You can get fired and still receive benefits as long as it wasn't for misconduct. Don't panic - just file your claim as soon as possible.
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Ella Harper
•Okay thank you. I'll file online tonight. Do I need to wait to hear back before I can start getting money?
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Ruby Blake
•You have to file weekly claims even while your initial claim is being processed. You'll get paid for those weeks once you're approved.
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Brooklyn Knight
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED ANYWAY! Employers lie all the time to try to block unemployment claims. I got fired for 'attendance issues' even though I was sick with covid and they still tried to deny my benefits. Fight everything they say!
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Miles Hammonds
•Did you end up getting your benefits approved? How did you fight it?
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Brooklyn Knight
•Yeah I won my appeal but it took MONTHS. Had to provide medical records and everything. The whole system is designed to wear you down so you give up.
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Micah Franklin
Quick question - do you have to be looking for work while your termination claim is being reviewed? I never understood that part.
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Owen Devar
•Yes, you still need to do your job search activities and report them on your weekly claims. The work search requirement doesn't stop just because you're in adjudication.
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Micah Franklin
•Got it, thanks. I always forget about that requirement.
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Daniel Rivera
The fact that you mentioned safety issues could be really important here. Washington has strong protections for workers who report safety concerns. If they fired you in retaliation for that, it would definitely be wrongful termination and you'd qualify for benefits.
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Miles Hammonds
•I did bring up some OSHA violations to my manager about a month before they fired me. Do you think that's connected?
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Daniel Rivera
•Very possibly! Make sure to mention that to Washington ESD during your interview. They take retaliation claims seriously.
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Sophie Footman
•You might also want to file a complaint with L&I about the safety issues separately from your unemployment claim.
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Sophie Footman
Just want to echo what others said - file immediately! Don't let your employer scare you into thinking you can't get benefits. I've seen too many people wait weeks thinking they weren't eligible when they actually were.
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Miles Hammonds
•Thank you everyone for the encouragement. I was really worried I had no options.
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Sophie Footman
•You've got this! The worst they can do is say no, but from what you've described it sounds like you have a good case.
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Connor Rupert
Been through this exact situation. Got fired for 'not being a good fit' which is basically code for we don't like you but can't prove misconduct. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 4 weeks of adjudication.
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Miles Hammonds
•4 weeks is a long time to wait when you need money now. How did you survive financially during that time?
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Connor Rupert
•Had to borrow money from family and use credit cards. But once I got approved I got back pay for all those weeks so it worked out.
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Molly Hansen
Make sure when you file your claim you're completely honest about being terminated. Don't try to make it sound like you quit or anything like that. Washington ESD will find out the truth anyway and lying will hurt your case.
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Miles Hammonds
•Good point. I'll be completely upfront about what happened and let them decide.
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Molly Hansen
•Exactly. Honesty is always the best policy with unemployment claims.
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PrinceJoe
Update on my earlier comment about Claimyr - I ended up using them again when I had questions about my weekly claims. Super helpful for getting through to Washington ESD agents when you need to talk to someone about your specific situation. Worth checking out if you run into issues.
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Brady Clean
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money.
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PrinceJoe
•It's really reasonable compared to the stress of trying to get through on your own. Check their website for current info - claimyr.com
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Skylar Neal
One thing to keep in mind is that your employer might contest your claim even if they don't have grounds to. Some companies automatically contest every unemployment claim hoping people won't fight back. Don't let that discourage you.
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Miles Hammonds
•What happens if they contest it? Do I need a lawyer?
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Skylar Neal
•No lawyer needed! Washington ESD will schedule a hearing where both sides can present their case. You can represent yourself and many people do.
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Vincent Bimbach
•The hearings are usually done over the phone now which makes it easier. Just be prepared to explain your side clearly.
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Vincent Bimbach
I work in HR and can tell you that 'poor performance' terminations rarely qualify as misconduct unless there was willful negligence or refusal to follow clear instructions. Sounds like you should be fine for benefits.
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Miles Hammonds
•That's reassuring coming from someone who knows the employer side. I was doing my best but maybe wasn't the right fit for the role.
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Vincent Bimbach
•Exactly - not being the right fit isn't misconduct. Companies can fire for any reason but that doesn't disqualify you from unemployment.
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Kelsey Chin
Don't forget you can also look into other assistance programs while you're waiting for unemployment approval. Food banks, utility assistance, etc. Every little bit helps when money is tight.
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Miles Hammonds
•Good thinking. I should probably look into 211 and see what's available in my area.
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Kelsey Chin
•Yes! 211 is a great resource. Also check with local churches and community organizations.
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Norah Quay
Quick tip - when you do your weekly claims make sure to keep track of all your job search activities. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and they can audit you at any time.
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Miles Hammonds
•3 activities per week? What counts as a job search activity?
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Norah Quay
•Applying for jobs, networking events, job fairs, contacting employers, even some online training courses. Keep detailed records of everything.
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Leo McDonald
I hate to be negative but be prepared for this to take longer than you want. The adjudication process can be slow especially if your employer provides a lot of documentation. Just stay patient and keep filing your weekly claims.
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Miles Hammonds
•How long is 'longer than you want'? I'm already stressed about paying bills next week.
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Leo McDonald
•Could be anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on complexity. I know that's not what you want to hear but better to be prepared.
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Jessica Nolan
Just wanted to add that if you do get approved, you'll receive benefits for the waiting week and all the weeks you filed claims during adjudication. So don't skip filing weekly even though you're not getting paid yet.
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Miles Hammonds
•Good to know! I was wondering if those weeks would be lost. Thanks for clarifying.
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Jessica Nolan
•Nope, you'll get paid for all of them once approved. That back pay can be a nice chunk of money when it finally comes through.
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Angelina Farar
Has anyone mentioned that you should also file for food assistance and other benefits while you're waiting? SNAP, WIC if you qualify, housing assistance, etc. Being unemployed opens up eligibility for various programs.
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Miles Hammonds
•I hadn't thought about SNAP. Do I qualify if I'm still waiting to hear about unemployment?
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Angelina Farar
•Yes! SNAP looks at current income, not potential future unemployment benefits. If you have little to no income right now, you likely qualify.
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Brady Clean
This whole thread has been super helpful. I'm in a similar situation and was afraid to file thinking I wouldn't qualify. Definitely going to submit my application tonight.
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Miles Hammonds
•Same here! It's nice to know other people have been through this and come out okay.
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Sebastián Stevens
•Good luck to both of you! Remember that unemployment benefits exist for exactly these situations.
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Sebastián Stevens
Final thought - document everything about your termination while it's fresh in your mind. Write down dates, what was said, who was present, any relevant emails or texts. This will be invaluable if your claim gets contested and you need to present your case.
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Miles Hammonds
•Great advice. I'm going to sit down tonight and write everything out while I still remember all the details clearly.
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Sebastián Stevens
•Smart move. Having good documentation can make the difference between approval and denial in borderline cases.
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