Can you receive Washington ESD unemployment if fired from your job?
My supervisor terminated me last Friday after what they called 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I questioned some of their decisions in front of other employees. They said I was insubordinate but I was just trying to help improve our workflow. Can I still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD if I was fired? I've been working there for 2 years and never had any write-ups before this incident. Really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills while looking for another job.
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Elijah O'Reilly
Yes, you can absolutely apply for unemployment benefits even if you were fired. Washington ESD will review your case during adjudication to determine if the termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues alone usually don't disqualify you unless there was willful misconduct involved. File your claim right away - you have nothing to lose by applying.
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Natalie Adams
•Thank you! That's reassuring. Should I mention the real reason I think they fired me or just stick to what they put in my termination paperwork?
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Elijah O'Reilly
•Be honest about your side of the story when they ask during the adjudication interview. Washington ESD will contact both you and your employer to get both perspectives before making a decision.
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Amara Torres
I got fired from my last job too and still received UI benefits. The key is whether Washington ESD considers it misconduct or not. Poor performance, personality conflicts, or even insubordination that isn't severe usually won't disqualify you. Definitely file - the worst they can say is no.
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Natalie Adams
•How long did the adjudication process take for your claim? I'm worried about the delay in getting benefits.
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Amara Torres
•Mine took about 3 weeks but that was during a busy period. Could be faster now.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
Just went through this exact situation myself. Got canned for 'attitude problems' which was really just me standing up for unsafe working conditions. I was super worried about filing but a friend told me about this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents by phone. Used it to talk to someone about my case and they confirmed I should definitely apply. There's even a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Worth checking out if you need to speak to someone directly about your situation.
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Natalie Adams
•That sounds really helpful! Did they charge you a lot for the service?
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•They focus on getting you connected rather than charging huge fees. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting hung up on constantly.
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Mason Kaczka
•Never heard of this before but might be worth trying if the regular phone lines are still impossible to get through.
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Sophia Russo
DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP TOO HIGH! I got fired for being late a few times and they denied my claim saying it was misconduct. Had to appeal and it took forever. The system is rigged against workers if you ask me. But yeah you should still try I guess.
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Natalie Adams
•Did you win your appeal eventually? Being late seems different from what happened to me.
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Sophia Russo
•Yeah I won on appeal but it took 2 months total. Make sure you document everything about why you got fired.
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Evelyn Xu
The specific Washington ESD criteria for misconduct is pretty narrow. They look for willful disregard of employer interests, violation of workplace rules, or behavior that shows intent to harm the employer. Questioning workflow decisions or even heated disagreements usually don't meet this standard unless you were threatening, using profanity, or deliberately sabotaging work.
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Natalie Adams
•This is exactly what I needed to know. There was no threatening or sabotage - just a disagreement about how we were handling a project.
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Dominic Green
•Good point about the narrow definition. A lot of employers try to claim misconduct when it's really just a personality conflict or performance issue.
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Natalie Adams
Update: I filed my claim online through SecureAccess Washington and it went through without any immediate red flags. Now just waiting to see if it goes into adjudication. Fingers crossed!
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Elijah O'Reilly
•Great! Even if it does go to adjudication, don't panic. That's normal for termination cases and doesn't mean you'll be denied.
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Amara Torres
•Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication. You can get backpay if approved.
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Hannah Flores
My brother got fired for attendance issues and still got unemployment. Like others said, it really depends on the specific circumstances and whether Washington ESD considers it misconduct.
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Natalie Adams
•That gives me hope. My situation seems less severe than attendance problems.
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Kayla Jacobson
I work in HR and see this stuff all the time. Unless there was theft, violence, or really egregious behavior, most terminations don't rise to the level of misconduct for UI purposes. Employers sometimes contest claims just to try to save money on their unemployment tax rate.
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Natalie Adams
•Interesting perspective from the employer side. Do you think my former employer will contest my claim?
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Kayla Jacobson
•Hard to say without knowing your company, but if they fired you for 'performance' they might. Just be prepared to explain your side clearly if Washington ESD contacts you.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•This is another reason why services like Claimyr can be helpful - you can actually talk to a real person at Washington ESD about what to expect instead of guessing.
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William Rivera
been thru this twice unfortunately... first time got approved, second time had to appeal but won eventually. def file asap dont wait
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Natalie Adams
•What was different between the two situations that made one require an appeal?
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William Rivera
•first one was downsizing, second was fired for arguing with supervisor. similar to ur situation actually
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Grace Lee
The thing people don't realize is that Washington ESD has to prove misconduct, not the other way around. The burden is on them to show you did something that justifies denying benefits. Your employer will have to provide documentation of the misconduct.
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Natalie Adams
•That's really good to know! I don't think they have much documentation since this was pretty sudden.
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Mia Roberts
•Exactly right about the burden of proof. A lot of people assume they're automatically disqualified if fired but that's not how it works.
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The Boss
Check if your company has any written policies about the behavior they're claiming was misconduct. If they can't point to a specific policy you violated, it strengthens your case that it wasn't misconduct.
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Natalie Adams
•Good idea. I still have access to the employee handbook so I'll review their policies.
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Evan Kalinowski
I had a similar experience where I got fired for 'attitude' but it was really because I reported safety violations to OSHA. Got my unemployment approved after adjudication. Stand your ground and tell your story honestly.
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Natalie Adams
•Wow, that sounds like retaliation. Glad you got approved in the end.
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Victoria Charity
•Yeah that definitely sounds like wrongful termination territory too, not just an unemployment issue.
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Jasmine Quinn
One thing to keep in mind is that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you have the right to appeal. I've seen plenty of people win on appeal even when the initial decision went against them.
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Natalie Adams
•How long do you have to file an appeal if needed?
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Jasmine Quinn
•You have 30 days from the date on the determination letter to file your appeal. Don't wait - file right away if you disagree with their decision.
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Oscar Murphy
This whole thread is making me feel better about my own situation. Got fired last month and was too scared to apply thinking I wouldn't qualify. Going to file today after reading all this.
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Elijah O'Reilly
•Definitely apply! You might be surprised. Even if there's a chance of denial, the worst they can say is no and then you know where you stand.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•If you need help getting through to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your case, definitely check out that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. Made a huge difference for me.
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Nora Bennett
The key thing Washington ESD looks for is whether the behavior was a one-time incident or part of a pattern, and whether you knew it could result in termination. Sounds like your situation was a one-time disagreement without prior warnings.
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Natalie Adams
•Yes exactly! No prior warnings or disciplinary actions. This was completely out of the blue.
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Ryan Andre
I'm a former Washington ESD adjudicator and cases like yours were pretty common. We'd look at the employee handbook, any progressive discipline, witness statements, and the employee's work history. A single incident of questioning management without profanity or threats usually doesn't meet the misconduct standard.
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Natalie Adams
•This is incredibly helpful coming from someone who actually made these decisions! Thank you for the insight.
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Lauren Zeb
•Wow, rare to get perspective from an actual adjudicator. Really valuable info for everyone dealing with this situation.
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Daniel Washington
•Would love to hear more about what adjudicators actually look for in these cases.
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Aurora Lacasse
Final update if anyone's still following: My claim was approved without even going to adjudication! Got my first payment this week. Thanks everyone for the encouragement to apply even though I was fired.
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Elijah O'Reilly
•Fantastic news! This is exactly why it's important to apply even when you're unsure about eligibility.
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Amara Torres
•Congrats! Your employer probably didn't even contest it if it went through that quickly.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•Great outcome! Just shows that questioning your boss's decisions isn't misconduct. Hope this thread helps other people in similar situations feel confident about applying.
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