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Zoe Alexopoulos

Can you collect Washington ESD unemployment if someone gets fired?

My supervisor terminated me yesterday after what they called 'performance issues' but I feel like it was really because I questioned some of their decisions in front of other employees. I've been at this job for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or disciplinary actions. Can I still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD if I was fired? I'm really worried about making rent next month and need to know if I should even bother applying.

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD distinguishes between being fired for 'misconduct' versus being fired for other reasons like performance or layoffs. Since you mention performance issues rather than something like stealing or violating company policy, you likely qualify. The key is whether your termination was due to misconduct or just regular employment issues.

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That's a relief to hear! So questioning my supervisor's decisions wouldn't count as misconduct?

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Typically no, unless you were insubordinate or violated specific workplace policies. Disagreeing with decisions isn't usually considered misconduct for UI purposes.

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Mei Wong

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File immediately! Washington ESD has a waiting period before benefits start, so don't waste time. When you file, be honest about being terminated but emphasize it was performance-related, not misconduct. The employer will have a chance to contest your claim, but you'll still get benefits while any dispute is being resolved.

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How long does the approval process usually take?

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Mei Wong

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Usually 2-3 weeks if there are no complications, but it can take longer if your employer contests the claim and it goes to adjudication.

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QuantumQuasar

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I was in a similar situation last year. Got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but was really because I wouldn't work unpaid overtime. Filed for unemployment and got approved after about 3 weeks. The employer tried to say it was misconduct but Washington ESD sided with me. Don't let them intimidate you - file that claim!

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Did you have to provide any documentation or evidence?

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QuantumQuasar

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I saved all my performance reviews and emails. Washington ESD didn't ask for them initially but having them ready helped when the employer contested.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days with no luck.

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Amara Eze

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Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits. The important thing is WHY you were fired. Washington ESD looks at whether it was misconduct (like theft, harassment, or willful policy violations) versus other reasons. Performance issues, downsizing, or personality conflicts usually don't disqualify you.

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What if my employer claims I was insubordinate for questioning their decisions?

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Amara Eze

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You'd have a chance to present your side during the adjudication process. Keep any documentation that shows you were trying to do your job properly.

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File ASAP! I made the mistake of waiting 2 weeks after getting fired thinking I wouldn't qualify. Turns out I was eligible the whole time and lost those 2 weeks of benefits. Don't second-guess yourself - let Washington ESD make the determination.

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Good point. I'll file tomorrow morning first thing.

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Smart move. The sooner you file, the sooner your claim gets processed and you can start receiving benefits if approved.

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I got fired for 'attitude problems' which was really just me pushing back on unsafe working conditions. Washington ESD approved my claim after the employer contested it. They said my concerns about safety were reasonable and not misconduct. Don't assume you're disqualified just because you were terminated.

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How long did the appeal process take?

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About 6 weeks total, but I kept getting benefits while it was being decided. That's the nice thing about Washington's system.

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Dylan Wright

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Make sure you have all your employment details ready when you file - dates of employment, reason for separation, your supervisor's name, etc. Washington ESD will contact your employer to verify the information, so be accurate about everything.

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Should I mention the part about questioning my supervisor's decisions?

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Dylan Wright

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Be honest but focus on the performance issue aspect. You can explain your side if there's a hearing or adjudication process.

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Sofia Torres

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Ugh, employers always try to make it sound like misconduct when they fire someone. Half the time it's just to avoid paying higher unemployment insurance rates. Washington ESD sees through this stuff - they deal with employer contests all the time.

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I didn't even think about that angle. Makes sense they'd want to avoid paying more.

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Sofia Torres

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Exactly. Don't let them scare you out of filing. That's probably what they're hoping for.

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Been there! Got fired for 'not being a team player' but really it was because I wouldn't cover for a coworker who was always late. Washington ESD approved my claim in about 2 weeks. The employer didn't even bother to contest it once they realized their reason was flimsy.

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That gives me hope. Sounds like Washington ESD is pretty fair about these situations.

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They really are. They've heard every excuse from employers trying to avoid paying unemployment insurance.

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