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Jamal Wilson

If I get fired can I file for unemployment in Washington - what are my chances?

I'm really worried about my job situation right now and need to know if I can get unemployment benefits if I get terminated. My supervisor has been documenting everything I do and I feel like they're building a case against me. I've been at this retail job for 8 months and honestly I've been late a few times and called in sick when I wasn't really sick. If they fire me for attendance issues, can I still file for Washington ESD unemployment? I really need to know what my options are because I can't afford to be without income.

Mei Lin

Yes, you can file for unemployment even if you're fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you were terminated for 'misconduct.' Being late occasionally usually won't disqualify you, but if they can prove a pattern of willful misconduct, you might get denied.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? I mean, everyone's late sometimes right?

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Mei Lin

Misconduct is generally willful or negligent behavior that goes against your employer's interests. A few isolated incidents of tardiness usually aren't enough, but repeated violations after warnings could be.

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File immediately if you get terminated, regardless of the reason. Let Washington ESD make the determination about eligibility. Even if they initially deny you, you can appeal the decision. The worst that happens is they say no, but you won't know unless you try.

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Should I file online or call? I heard it's really hard to get through to anyone at Washington ESD.

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File online first at esd.wa.gov - it's faster. You can always call later if you need to clarify anything, but the online system works pretty well for basic claims.

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I was in a similar situation last year and got approved even though I was fired for attendance. The key is being honest about what happened but also explaining any circumstances that contributed to the issues. Washington ESD looks at the whole picture, not just the employer's side.

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Really? That gives me some hope. How long did it take to get approved?

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It took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication to review both sides. My employer contested it but I still got approved.

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Same here - got fired for performance issues but still got UI benefits. Don't give up if they initially deny you.

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It's totally legitimate - they just help you get through the phone system to reach an actual Washington ESD representative. You're still talking directly to ESD staff, not Claimyr people.

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I used Claimyr too when I had adjudication issues. Worth it just to avoid the endless busy signals.

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Been fired twice in my career and got unemployment both times. The first time was for attendance (similar to your situation) and the second was for 'not being a good fit.' Washington ESD approved both claims. Employers contest a lot of claims but that doesn't mean they'll win.

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That's encouraging. Did you have to provide documentation or anything?

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Just had to fill out the questionnaire honestly about what happened. They'll contact your employer too and make a decision based on both sides.

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Make sure you document everything that's happening at work right now. Save any emails, write down dates of conversations with your supervisor, etc. If they do fire you and contest your claim, having documentation helps your case.

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Good point. I should probably start keeping track of everything now.

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Exactly. Even if you think something isn't important, write it down. You never know what might be relevant later.

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washington unemployment system is so backed up right now, took me 6 weeks to get my first payment even though i was approved. just be prepared for delays

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6 weeks?? How did you survive that long without income?

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had to borrow money from family. its rough but the payments are retroactive so you do get everything eventually

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I'm a former HR manager and I've seen plenty of unemployment claims get approved even when we contested them. Unless there's clear evidence of serious misconduct like theft or violence, most attendance-related terminations don't disqualify someone from benefits. Washington ESD tends to err on the side of the employee.

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That's really reassuring coming from someone who's seen it from the employer side. Thank you!

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Just be completely honest in your application. Trying to hide details or lie will hurt you more than the actual reason you were fired.

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File immediately after termination - like within a day or two. There's a waiting period before benefits start anyway, so the sooner you file, the sooner you can start getting payments. And start job searching right away because you'll need to prove you're looking for work.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week in Washington. Keep detailed records because they do audits.

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The whole system is set up to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own, but it also recognizes that sometimes employees make mistakes. Being late occasionally isn't usually considered willful misconduct unless you ignored repeated warnings and continued the behavior.

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I did get a couple verbal warnings about attendance. Does that hurt my chances?

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It might complicate things, but it doesn't automatically disqualify you. Washington ESD will look at whether the warnings were reasonable and if you made efforts to improve.

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Don't stress too much about it. I know tons of people who got fired and still got unemployment. The system isn't designed to punish people for being human and making mistakes. Just file your claim and see what happens.

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Thanks, I really needed to hear that. I've been losing sleep over this.

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It'll work out. Even if they deny you initially, you can appeal and often win on appeal.

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Pro tip: when you file your claim, focus on any external factors that contributed to your attendance issues. Were you dealing with transportation problems? Family issues? Health problems? Washington ESD considers these mitigating circumstances.

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I have been having car trouble lately and my bus route got changed. Should I mention that?

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Absolutely! Transportation issues are legitimate reasons for attendance problems. Be specific about dates and incidents.

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Another thing - if you do get denied initially, don't panic. A lot of people win their appeals. I had to appeal mine and won because I was able to explain the circumstances better in the hearing than in the initial application.

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How does the appeal process work? Is it complicated?

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It's actually pretty straightforward. You get a phone hearing with an administrative law judge who listens to both sides and makes a decision.

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I used Claimyr when I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my disqualification. Saved me hours of trying to call on my own. Sometimes you really need to speak to a human to explain your situation properly, and they make that possible.

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How much does something like that cost?

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They focus on the value of actually reaching someone rather than the cost. When you're dealing with potential weeks of lost benefits, it's worth it to get through to ESD.

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The most important thing is to file your claim as soon as possible after termination. Don't wait to see if you can find another job first - there's a waiting period anyway, and you want to establish your claim date as early as possible.

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Good to know. I'll file immediately if it happens.

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Smart. And remember, you can always withdraw your claim if you find work quickly, but you can't backdate it if you wait too long to file.

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Been through this exact situation. Got fired for attendance issues and was terrified I wouldn't qualify. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 3 weeks of review. The key is being honest about what happened and explaining any circumstances that contributed to the problems.

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That's exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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No problem. It's scary when you're going through it, but the system is more fair than you might think.

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One more thing - make sure you're completely honest in your application. Washington ESD will contact your employer and if your stories don't match, it can hurt your credibility. Better to be honest about mistakes than to try to cover them up.

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Definitely will be honest. I made mistakes and I own that.

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That's the right attitude. Taking responsibility actually helps your case more than trying to make excuses.

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I was in HR for years and saw hundreds of unemployment claims. Attendance issues alone rarely disqualify someone unless there's a clear pattern of willful misconduct. A few late arrivals and sick days don't usually meet that threshold. File your claim with confidence.

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This thread has been so helpful. I feel much better about my situation now.

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That's what these forums are for - helping each other navigate this stuff. Good luck with everything!

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Final thought - even if you do get denied initially, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and lots of people win on appeal. I've seen cases where ESD reversed their initial decision after hearing more details.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks everyone for all the advice and support!

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You're welcome. Come back and update us on how it goes. Your experience might help someone else in the same situation.

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