How to win Washington ESD unemployment appeal for misconduct - need strategies
Got denied UI benefits because Washington ESD says I was fired for misconduct. The hearing is in 2 weeks and I'm freaking out. My former employer is claiming I violated company policy but I think they're stretching the truth. Has anyone successfully won a misconduct appeal? What evidence should I bring to the hearing? I really need these benefits while I look for work.
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Vincent Bimbach
Misconduct appeals are definitely winnable if you prepare properly. The key is understanding that Washington ESD has to prove willful misconduct, not just poor performance. Gather all documentation - employee handbook, any written warnings, emails, text messages. Also get witness statements from coworkers if possible.
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Skylar Neal
•Thanks! I do have some emails that show my supervisor was inconsistent with policies. Should I organize them chronologically?
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Vincent Bimbach
•Yes, definitely organize everything chronologically. Create a timeline showing what really happened versus what your employer is claiming.
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Kelsey Chin
I won my misconduct appeal last year! The hearing officer really focused on whether my actions were intentional and whether I knew the policy. If your employer never clearly communicated the rules or if you made an honest mistake, that's not misconduct under Washington law.
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Skylar Neal
•That's encouraging! Did you have a lawyer or represent yourself?
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Kelsey Chin
•I represented myself but I prepared like crazy. Practiced my opening statement and had all my documents tabbed and ready.
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Norah Quay
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Leo McDonald
•How much does that cost though? I'm already stressed about money.
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Norah Quay
•It's way cheaper than hiring a lawyer and you actually get to talk to Washington ESD staff. I was able to get my questions answered about documentation requirements.
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Jessica Nolan
The burden of proof is on your employer to show misconduct. They need to prove three things: 1) You violated a policy or rule, 2) You knew about the policy, and 3) Your violation was willful or deliberate. If they can't prove all three, you should win.
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Skylar Neal
•This is super helpful. They're saying I was late too many times but I have medical documentation for most of those instances.
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Jessica Nolan
•Medical issues can definitely be a defense! Make sure you bring all medical records and any correspondence with your employer about accommodations.
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Angelina Farar
ugh the whole unemployment system is rigged against workers. Even when you win these appeals it takes forever to get your benefits. I'm going through the same thing right now and it's so stressful.
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Skylar Neal
•I know, it's awful. How long have you been waiting?
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Angelina Farar
•Filed my appeal 6 weeks ago, hearing is next month. Meanwhile I'm behind on rent and they don't care.
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Vincent Bimbach
Don't let frustration cloud your preparation. Focus on these key strategies: 1) Challenge their evidence - are their witnesses credible? 2) Present alternative explanations for your actions, 3) Show you tried to improve or follow policies, 4) Demonstrate the consequences were disproportionate to your actions.
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Sebastián Stevens
•This is solid advice. I'd add that you should also research Washington's misconduct standards. The hearing officer has to follow state law, not just company policies.
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Skylar Neal
•Where can I find information about Washington's misconduct standards?
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Sebastián Stevens
•Check the Washington ESD website under appeals information, or look up RCW 50.20.066. That's the actual statute that defines misconduct.
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Bethany Groves
Practice your testimony beforehand! I stumbled through my hearing because I was nervous and didn't prepare what I wanted to say. The hearing officer seemed frustrated with my rambling answers.
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Skylar Neal
•Good point. Should I write out my opening statement word for word?
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Bethany Groves
•I'd write bullet points so you don't sound like you're reading a script. But definitely practice out loud several times.
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KingKongZilla
Just had my hearing last week and I think it went well. The hearing officer asked really detailed questions about company policy and whether I received proper training. Make sure you can speak to these specifics.
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Skylar Neal
•How long did your hearing take? I'm worried about taking time off work for my new job search.
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KingKongZilla
•Mine was about 45 minutes. Most hearings are scheduled for an hour but can run shorter or longer depending on complexity.
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Rebecca Johnston
Don't forget about witness preparation if you have any. I had a coworker testify for me and we went over her testimony beforehand. She was able to confirm that the policy enforcement was inconsistent.
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Skylar Neal
•I have one coworker who might testify but she's worried about retaliation from our old employer.
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Rebecca Johnston
•That's understandable. Maybe she could provide a written statement instead? It's not as powerful as live testimony but still helpful.
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Nathan Dell
When I was dealing with my appeal process, I couldn't get through to Washington ESD to ask basic questions about procedures. Claimyr.com ended up being a lifesaver - they have this system that gets you connected to actual Washington ESD staff instead of waiting on hold forever. Might be worth checking out if you need to clarify anything before your hearing.
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Maya Jackson
•Is that actually legit? Sounds too good to be true.
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Nathan Dell
•Yeah I was skeptical too but it really works. I was able to get clarification on what documents I needed to submit before my hearing.
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Tristan Carpenter
The thing that helped me most was understanding the difference between misconduct and poor performance. Poor performance isn't misconduct under Washington law. If you were trying to do your job but struggling, that's different from deliberately violating rules.
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Skylar Neal
•That's exactly my situation! I was struggling with the workload but I wasn't deliberately doing anything wrong.
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Tristan Carpenter
•Then you have a good chance of winning. Make sure you emphasize your good faith efforts to meet expectations.
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Amaya Watson
Document everything about your termination meeting if you haven't already. What exactly did they say? Who was present? Any recording or written documentation they provided? These details can be crucial.
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Skylar Neal
•I didn't think to take notes during the termination meeting. Is it too late to write down what I remember?
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Amaya Watson
•Not too late but write it down ASAP while it's still fresh. Include as many specific details as you can remember.
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Grant Vikers
Make sure you understand the hearing format. It's not like court - it's more informal but still official. You'll get to present your case, then your employer presents theirs, then there's usually some back and forth questioning.
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Skylar Neal
•Can I ask questions of my former employer's witnesses?
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Grant Vikers
•Yes, you can cross-examine their witnesses. Prepare some questions in advance but keep them focused and respectful.
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Giovanni Martello
honestly these hearings are stressful AF but if you're prepared you can definitely win. I beat a misconduct charge because I showed they never gave me proper training on the policy I supposedly violated.
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Skylar Neal
•That's a great point about training. I never received formal training on some of the policies they're citing.
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Giovanni Martello
•exactly! if they didn't train you properly, how can they claim you willfully violated the policy?
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Savannah Weiner
One thing I learned is that you can request a postponement if you need more time to prepare, but you need a good reason. Don't wait until the last minute though.
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Skylar Neal
•I think 2 weeks should be enough time if I start preparing now. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Savannah Weiner
•Yeah 2 weeks is usually plenty if you're organized about it. Good luck!
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Levi Parker
Remember that hearsay evidence is generally allowed in these hearings, unlike in court. So your employer might present second-hand information. You can challenge its reliability but it will likely be admitted.
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Skylar Neal
•That seems unfair. So they can just have someone say whatever they want?
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Levi Parker
•The hearing officer will consider the reliability of the evidence when making their decision. Focus on presenting stronger, more credible evidence on your side.
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Libby Hassan
If you need to talk to Washington ESD before your hearing, I had success with Claimyr recently. Was trying to understand some procedural stuff and couldn't get through on the phone for days. They got me connected pretty quickly and I was able to get my questions answered. Definitely helped me feel more prepared.
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Hunter Hampton
•How does that work exactly? Do they just call for you?
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Libby Hassan
•They have some system that gets you to the front of the queue basically. Check out claimyr.com if you're interested - they have a video that explains it.
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Sofia Peña
The most important thing is staying calm and professional during the hearing. I've seen people lose winnable cases because they got emotional or argumentative. Let the facts speak for themselves.
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Skylar Neal
•I'm definitely going to practice staying calm. This whole situation has me pretty worked up.
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Sofia Peña
•Totally understandable. Maybe do some practice interviews with friends or family to get comfortable presenting your case calmly.
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Aaron Boston
Don't forget to follow up after the hearing if you don't hear back within the expected timeframe. Sometimes decisions get delayed and you need to check on the status.
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Skylar Neal
•How long do they usually take to issue a decision?
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Aaron Boston
•Usually within a few weeks but it can vary. They should give you an estimated timeframe at the end of your hearing.
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Sophia Carter
Just want to add that even if your employer has documentation of policy violations, you can still win if you can show the violations weren't willful or if there were extenuating circumstances. Don't give up hope!
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Skylar Neal
•Thanks for the encouragement. I really hope I can make a strong case for extenuating circumstances.
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Sophia Carter
•You've got this! Sounds like you're taking all the right steps to prepare properly.
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Joshua Wood
I went through a similar misconduct appeal last year and won! The key thing that helped me was focusing on Washington's specific definition of misconduct - it has to be willful and deliberate disregard of employer interests. If you were genuinely trying to do your job but made mistakes or struggled with performance, that's not misconduct. Make sure you have a clear timeline of events, any documentation showing you tried to improve or asked for help, and evidence that policies weren't clearly communicated or consistently enforced. Also, practice telling your story concisely - the hearing officer needs to understand your perspective quickly. You mentioned medical documentation for tardiness - that could be really strong evidence that your actions weren't willful. Good luck with your hearing!
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Mason Lopez
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've been feeling so overwhelmed but your breakdown of Washington's misconduct definition gives me hope. You're right about the medical documentation - I have doctor's notes for most of the absences they're citing. Did you have to prove anything specific about your medical issues, or was having the documentation enough? Also, when you say "practice telling your story concisely," about how long should my opening statement be?
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