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How to protest unemployment claim denial - Washington ESD appeal process help needed

Got my denial letter from Washington ESD last week and I need to figure out how to protest this decision. They're saying I was terminated for misconduct but that's completely wrong - I was let go because of budget cuts, not performance issues. The letter mentions something about filing an appeal but I'm confused about the process. Do I need to protest unemployment claim through their online system or mail something in? How long do I have to respond? This is my first time dealing with Washington ESD and I really need these benefits while I look for work.

You need to file an appeal within 30 days of the denial date on your letter. Don't wait - that deadline is firm. You can appeal online through your Washington ESD account or mail in the appeal form that should have come with your denial notice.

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Thanks! I found the appeal form but it's asking for a lot of details. Do I need to write a whole statement or just check boxes?

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Write a detailed statement explaining why the denial is wrong. Include any documentation you have like your termination letter, emails, etc.

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been there with the appeal process, it's stressful but doable. make sure you keep copies of everything you submit to washington esd

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Good point about keeping copies. Should I send everything certified mail or is regular mail ok?

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i'd do certified just to be safe, gives you proof they received it

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I had to appeal a Washington ESD decision last year and honestly the hardest part was just getting through to someone to ask questions. Spent hours on hold trying to reach an agent. Recently discovered this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that handles the calling for you - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth checking out if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your appeal.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit? I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point.

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Yeah it's legitimate, they basically call Washington ESD for you and connect you when they get through. Saved me so much frustration.

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Interesting, might have to look into that myself. Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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THE WASHINGTON ESD APPEAL PROCESS IS A JOKE! They denied my claim for 'voluntary quit' when I was obviously laid off due to company restructuring. Filed my appeal with mountains of documentation and still had to fight for months. System is rigged against workers.

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That's terrifying to hear. Did you eventually win your appeal?

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YES but only after going to the actual hearing and presenting my case in person. The initial appeal review was useless.

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For misconduct denials specifically, you'll want to gather any performance reviews showing good work history, witness statements from coworkers if possible, and documentation of the actual reason for termination. Washington ESD has to prove misconduct, not just accept the employer's word.

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I have my last performance review from 6 months ago that was positive. Would that help even though it's not recent?

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Absolutely include it. Shows a pattern of acceptable work performance leading up to your termination.

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same thing happened to my cousin except with washington esd saying she quit when she was actually fired, took forever to get resolved

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How long did it take for her case to get resolved?

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like 3 months total i think? but she got back pay for all the weeks once it was approved

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One thing to remember is that you can continue filing your weekly claims while your appeal is pending. Even if Washington ESD isn't paying you yet, you need to keep filing to preserve those weeks for back pay if you win.

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Oh wow I didn't know that! I stopped filing claims after I got denied. Can I still file for the weeks I missed?

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You might be able to do late claims but you'll need to contact Washington ESD about that. Don't miss any more weeks going forward though.

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Wait I'm confused - is protesting the same as appealing? I got a different kind of letter about my job search requirements.

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Protesting usually refers to disputing an initial determination, while appealing is the formal process after a denial. Job search issues are handled differently than misconduct denials.

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ah ok that makes sense, thanks for clarifying

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I work in HR and see these situations all the time. Make sure you have documentation of exactly what your employer told you about the termination. Many times there's a disconnect between what HR processes and what gets reported to Washington ESD.

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My manager just said it was budget cuts and gave me a generic termination letter. Should I try to get something more specific?

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If you can get a letter stating the specific reason was budget cuts/layoff rather than performance, that would be ideal evidence for your appeal.

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don't let washington esd intimidate you with all their legal language, the appeal process is designed for regular people to navigate

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Thanks for the encouragement. I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed by all the paperwork.

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My brother went through this exact situation last year with Washington ESD claiming misconduct when he was laid off. He used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to actually get through to an agent who helped explain the appeal process. Worth the money if you're stuck.

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Good to hear another success story with that service. I might try it if I can't get through on my own.

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Yeah the peace of mind of actually talking to a real person at Washington ESD was huge for him

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Also make sure you understand the difference between the first level appeal (reconsideration) and the second level appeal (hearing). If you lose the first one, you can still request a hearing with an administrative law judge.

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How do I know which level I'm at? The denial letter just says I can appeal.

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Your first appeal will be a reconsideration. If that gets denied, then you can request the hearing level.

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washington esd denied my claim too but for different reasons, took 2 appeals before i finally got approved, hang in there

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Two appeals sounds exhausting. How long did the whole process take?

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about 4 months total but the back pay was worth it

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One more tip - if you need to submit additional evidence after filing your appeal, Washington ESD will usually accept it up until the hearing date. Don't think you're stuck with just what you submitted initially.

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That's really helpful to know. I'm still trying to get documentation from my former employer.

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The whole system is so confusing! I mixed up appeals and protests when I first started dealing with Washington ESD. They really need to make this process clearer for people.

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Right? All the terminology is overwhelming when you're already stressed about money.

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The good news is that once you file the appeal, the process is pretty straightforward - just takes time.

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I had success with my Washington ESD appeal by being very detailed in my written statement. Don't just say the decision is wrong - explain exactly why with specific dates and events.

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Good advice. I'll make sure to be thorough in my statement.

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AND ANOTHER THING - Washington ESD takes forever to process appeals. Don't expect quick results. They're understaffed and overworked but that's no excuse for the delays.

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How long should I expect to wait for a decision on my appeal?

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Plan for 6-8 weeks minimum, maybe longer depending on their backlog

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Just wanted to say good luck with your appeal! The system can be frustrating but don't give up. You know the real reason you were terminated.

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Thank you for the support, really appreciate it!

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If anyone else is dealing with Washington ESD appeal issues, that Claimyr thing really does work. Used it myself when I couldn't get through to ask about my hearing date. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. I'll definitely consider it.

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remember to keep detailed records of everything - when you submitted your appeal, what documents you included, any correspondence from washington esd. helps if there are any issues later

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Starting a folder now with all my Washington ESD documents. Thanks for the reminder!

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