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Nathaniel Mikhaylov

How many people are on unemployment in Washington - crazy numbers right now

Does anyone know how many people are currently collecting unemployment benefits in Washington state? I'm trying to understand if the long wait times and busy phone lines are because there are just tons of people filing claims right now. My claim has been in adjudication for over a month and I can't get through to anyone at Washington ESD. Are we talking like 100,000 people or way more? Just trying to get some perspective on why everything seems so backed up.

From what I've seen in the news, Washington typically has around 150,000-200,000 people on regular UI benefits during normal times, but it can spike way higher during economic downturns. The pandemic years were insane - we had over 600,000 people on unemployment at the peak.

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Wow that's way more than I thought! No wonder I can't get through on the phone.

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Those pandemic numbers were crazy. I remember trying to file in 2020 and the website would crash constantly.

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The Washington ESD publishes monthly statistics but they're usually a few months behind. Last I checked we were sitting around 180,000 regular UI claimants plus people on standby and other programs. The adjudication backlog is a separate issue - that's more about staffing than total numbers.

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Do you know where I can find those monthly stats? I'd like to see the trend over the past year.

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Check the Washington ESD website under 'Labor Market Information' - they have all the unemployment statistics there.

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honestly the numbers dont matter as much as the fact that washington esd is just understaffed. my cousin works there and she says they have way fewer people processing claims than they need. even if there were only 50k people on unemployment theyd still be behind

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That makes sense. It's not just about volume but also about capacity to handle the workload.

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Your cousin is probably right. I've heard they lost a lot of experienced staff during the pandemic and haven't replaced them all.

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I think we're at around 4-5% unemployment rate in Washington right now which translates to maybe 200,000+ people actively looking for work. Not all of them qualify for UI benefits though - some exhausted their benefits, some don't meet the work history requirements, etc.

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Good point about not everyone qualifying. I didn't think about that distinction.

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Yeah the unemployment rate and the number of people collecting benefits are totally different things.

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The real problem is seasonal spikes. Like right now we're heading into winter so construction and outdoor work slows down, tourism drops off, retail starts laying people off after the holidays. Washington ESD gets hit with waves of new claims that overwhelm their system.

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That explains why my timing is so bad - filed right when everyone else probably did too.

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Exactly. January through March are typically the highest months for new unemployment claims in Washington.

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Does anyone know how many people are specifically in adjudication right now? That seems like the bigger issue than total unemployment numbers. My claim sat there for 6 weeks before I finally got it resolved.

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Washington ESD doesn't publish adjudication queue numbers regularly, but based on complaints I see it's probably tens of thousands of cases backed up.

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6 weeks?! I'm only at 4 weeks and already panicking about bills.

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I know it's stressful but hang in there. Once it gets resolved you'll get all the back pay.

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The numbers fluctuate a lot based on economic conditions. During the 2008 recession Washington had over 300,000 people on unemployment. Right now we're in a relatively stable period but still dealing with post-pandemic system issues.

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I remember 2008-2009 being brutal. Took forever to get benefits approved back then too.

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At least now we have online filing. Back then you had to call or go in person for everything.

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just looked it up and washington state has about 3.8 million people in the labor force. if unemployment is around 4% thats like 150k people unemployed. but not all unemployed people get benefits so maybe 100-120k actually collecting UI?

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Your math is pretty close. The actual benefit recipiency rate is usually around 60-70% of total unemployed.

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So I'm one of maybe 120,000 people trying to get through to the same overloaded phone system. Great.

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WASHINGTON ESD NEEDS TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE!!! I don't care if there are 50,000 or 500,000 people on unemployment - the wait times are RIDICULOUS. I've been calling every day for 3 weeks and haven't talked to a human being once.

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My understanding is that Washington typically runs around 150k-200k people on regular UI, plus another 50k or so on standby, plus people doing job searches through WorkSource. The total numbers aren't that crazy but the system just can't handle even normal volumes efficiently.

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What's the difference between regular UI and standby? I keep seeing both terms.

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Standby is for union workers who are temporarily laid off but expect to be called back. They don't have to do job searches.

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The weekly claim filing probably gives you a better sense of active users. Every Thursday you've got hundreds of thousands of people trying to file their weekly claims online. That's when the website gets slowest.

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Thursday mornings are the worst! I always wait until Friday now to file my weekly claim.

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Good tip - I'll avoid Thursday mornings from now on.

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You know what would help? If Washington ESD actually answered their phones instead of hanging up on people after 2 hours on hold. The number of people wouldn't matter if they had decent customer service.

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At this point I'd pay someone to sit on hold for me. My time is worth more than this.

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i think the real number is closer to 250k when you count everyone - regular ui, standby, people in job training programs, people appealing decisions, etc. its a lot of people hitting the same system

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That's probably accurate when you include all the different programs Washington ESD administers.

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No wonder everything is so slow. That's a quarter million people using the same broken phone system.

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From my experience the actual number doesn't matter as much as when you call. Early morning (like 7:30 AM) is your best bet for getting through. Most people don't call that early.

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I tried calling at 8 AM and still couldn't get through. Maybe I need to call even earlier.

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Yeah 8 AM is already busy. I set my alarm for 7:25 and call right at 7:30 when they open.

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Look at it this way - Washington state has almost 8 million people. If even 2-3% of the population is on unemployment at any given time, that's 160,000-240,000 people. Add in family members calling on their behalf and you've got huge call volume.

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I didn't think about family members calling too. That probably doubles the call volume.

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My mom calls Washington ESD for me sometimes because I'm at work during their hours. So yes, lots of third-party calls.

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The adjudication backlog is the real killer. Doesn't matter if there are 100k or 500k people total - if 30,000 of them are stuck in adjudication that creates a massive phone queue of people trying to get status updates.

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Exactly my situation. I just want to know what's happening with my claim but can't reach anyone.

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The lack of transparency in the adjudication process creates so much unnecessary anxiety for claimants.

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Bottom line - there are enough people on unemployment in Washington to overwhelm the current system capacity. Whether it's 150k or 300k doesn't change the fact that Washington ESD needs better infrastructure and more staff to handle the load.

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Well said. The exact number is less important than the fact that the system can't handle whatever the current volume is.

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Agreed. This has been an ongoing problem for years regardless of unemployment levels.

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just my 2 cents but i think we focus too much on the numbers and not enough on solutions. services like claimyr show there are ways to work around the broken phone system until washington esd fixes it

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You're right. I should focus on getting my claim resolved instead of worrying about statistics.

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Exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. Sometimes you need a workaround while waiting for systemic fixes.

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