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How does an employee collecting Washington ESD unemployment affect the employer - tax implications?

My former employer is claiming that me filing for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD is going to cost them money and hurt their business. They're saying their unemployment taxes will go up because of my claim. Is this actually true? I was laid off due to budget cuts, not fired for cause or anything like that. I'm worried they might try to contest my claim just to avoid paying higher taxes. Can someone explain how this actually works from the employer side? I don't want to feel guilty about filing if it's not really my fault they have to pay more.

Yes, your employer's unemployment tax rate can be affected by claims, but it's not as simple as they're making it sound. Washington ESD uses an experience rating system where employers who have more claims filed against them may see higher tax rates in future years. However, if you were legitimately laid off due to budget cuts, that's exactly what unemployment insurance is designed for.

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So they're not lying about the tax increase, but I shouldn't feel bad about filing since I was laid off legitimately?

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Exactly. Don't let them guilt you into not filing for benefits you've earned. The system is designed to help workers who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

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Your employer is trying to manipulate you into not filing. I've seen this before where companies pressure former employees not to file claims to keep their tax rates low. File your claim - you paid into this system through your work.

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That's what I thought but I wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable. Thanks for confirming this.

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Absolutely file! Companies that do mass layoffs know this is part of the cost of doing business.

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I haven't had any issues yet but good to know there's help available if I need it. Did they actually contest your claim?

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They did contest it initially but Washington ESD ruled in my favor since I had documentation of the layoff. The whole process was stressful though.

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The employer tax rate calculation is based on their "experience rating" which looks at the total amount of benefits paid out to their former employees over a certain period. More claims = potentially higher rates. BUT this is spread out over time and many factors affect it. A single legitimate claim won't dramatically impact a company's rates unless they're very small.

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This is good info. Do you know what the actual percentage increase typically is?

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Washington ESD's tax rates range from 0.19% to 5.4% of wages depending on the employer's experience rating. The increase for one claim is usually minimal.

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So my one claim probably isn't going to bankrupt them like they're acting. That's reassuring.

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ugh this is so frustrating!! my last employer tried the same guilt trip on me when I got laid off. like sorry but I need to eat and pay rent?? they should have thought about unemployment costs before they decided to lay people off

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Right? I feel like they're trying to make me feel guilty for something that's not my fault.

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It's a common tactic unfortunately. Companies know many people don't understand how the system works.

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From a business perspective, unemployment insurance is just another cost of doing business, like workers' compensation. Responsible employers budget for this and understand that layoffs will result in claims. Your employer's reaction suggests they either don't understand their own obligations or they're being manipulative.

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This exactly. Any decent HR department would know this is just part of employment costs.

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They're a pretty small company so maybe they really don't understand? But that's still not my problem I guess.

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Small companies still have the same obligations. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for trying to discourage legitimate claims.

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I'm going through something similar where I'm worried about filing because my old boss made comments about how expensive it would be. But reading these responses I think I need to just file and stop worrying about their business problems.

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Absolutely file if you're eligible. You earned those benefits through your work contributions.

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don't let them guilt you!! file your claim today

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The employer contribution rates are calculated annually by Washington ESD based on multiple factors including the total benefits charged to their account, their payroll size, and the overall health of the unemployment trust fund. One claim rarely moves the needle significantly unless it's a very small employer.

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This is really helpful context. They made it sound like my claim alone would ruin them financially.

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They're definitely exaggerating the impact to try to dissuade you from filing.

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File your claim and don't look back. If they contest it without valid grounds, that's on them for wasting everyone's time including Washington ESD's resources.

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That's what I'm going to do. Thanks everyone for the reality check.

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Good for you! And remember claimyr.com is there if you need help reaching Washington ESD about anything that comes up.

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Just to add some concrete numbers - even if your claim results in a modest increase to their tax rate, we're talking about fractions of a percent on their total payroll. For a company paying $100,000 in wages annually, an increase from 1% to 1.2% would cost them an extra $200 per year. That's the cost of doing business when you lay people off.

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Wow when you put actual numbers on it, it really shows how they're overreacting.

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Yeah that's way less dramatic than they made it sound. I'm definitely filing my claim.

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Those numbers really put it in perspective. Any business that can't absorb a $200 annual increase has bigger problems.

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also like... if they're so worried about unemployment costs maybe they shouldn't be laying people off in the first place?? just saying

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Exactly. The whole point of unemployment insurance is to spread the cost of economic downturns across all employers.

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Right? They want the benefits of being able to lay people off without paying the associated costs.

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One more thing to consider - if your employer contests your claim without valid grounds, Washington ESD may actually penalize them or require them to pay additional fees. So their threat to contest might backfire on them if your layoff was legitimate.

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I didn't know they could get penalized for frivolous contests. That makes me feel better about filing.

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Yes, Washington ESD doesn't take kindly to employers who abuse the contest process to avoid their obligations.

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Just wanted to mention again that if anyone runs into problems with their employer contesting claims or needs to speak with Washington ESD about employer disputes, claimyr.com made it so much easier to get through to someone who could help resolve my situation. Worth checking out their demo video if you're struggling with the phone system.

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I bookmarked that site just in case. The Washington ESD phone system is notoriously hard to navigate.

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Good to know there are options if I run into issues. Hopefully I won't need it but thanks for sharing.

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Bottom line: file your claim if you're eligible. Your employer's financial concerns are not your responsibility, especially when you were laid off through no fault of your own.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file tomorrow morning.

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Good decision! Don't let them guilt you out of benefits you've earned.

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For what it's worth, employers who properly manage their workforce and avoid unnecessary layoffs typically maintain lower unemployment tax rates over time. Your former employer's high emotional reaction suggests they may not have been managing this aspect of their business very well.

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That's a good point. Well-run companies budget for unemployment costs and don't panic over individual claims.

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Makes sense. They did seem pretty disorganized about the whole layoff process.

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Thanks for posting this question. I learned a lot from the responses and it helped me understand my own situation better too.

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Glad it helped! The responses really opened my eyes to how the system actually works.

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yeah this thread was super informative, good question OP

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One final thought - document everything your employer said about discouraging you from filing. If they do contest your claim, that information could be relevant to show they're acting in bad faith rather than based on legitimate grounds.

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Good point, I have some of it in email form already. I'll make sure to save all those communications.

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Smart advice. Washington ESD takes employer retaliation and interference with claims seriously.

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Hope everything works out smoothly with your claim. You're doing the right thing by filing - that's exactly what the unemployment system is designed for.

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Thank you! I feel much more confident about the whole process now thanks to everyone's help.

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Glad we could help clear things up. Don't let employers bully you out of your rightful benefits.

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Update us on how it goes! And remember, if you need help navigating any part of the Washington ESD system, resources like claimyr.com are available to help you get connected with the right people.

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Will do! Thanks again everyone for all the support and information.

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Yes please update us! This whole thread has been really educational.

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good luck with your claim!! don't let them intimidate you

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Thanks! I won't. I'm filing first thing tomorrow.

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