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Makayla Shoemaker

Got fired from my job can I get unemployment Washington ESD benefits?

So I just got terminated from my position at a retail store yesterday and I'm freaking out about whether I can even apply for unemployment. My manager said it was for performance issues but honestly I think they just wanted to get rid of me because I complained about the scheduling. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any written warnings or anything formal. Can I still file for Washington ESD benefits if I got fired? I really need the income while I look for something else.

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment benefits even if you were terminated. Washington ESD will look at the specific reason for your termination. If it was for performance issues rather than misconduct, you'll likely qualify. The key is whether you were fired for willful misconduct or just not meeting performance standards - there's a big difference.

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That's a relief! So performance issues aren't considered misconduct? I was never written up or anything, they just said I wasn't meeting sales goals.

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Exactly - failing to meet performance standards isn't the same as willful misconduct. You should definitely file your claim right away.

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File ASAP! Even if they deny your claim initially, you can appeal. I got fired for attendance issues and they approved my benefits after I explained the circumstances. Don't let them intimidate you.

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How long did your claim take to get approved? I'm worried about paying rent next month.

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Mine took about 3 weeks but that was during a busy period. Just make sure you file your weekly claims even if it's still pending.

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Never heard of that service but honestly anything is better than calling Washington ESD directly. Their phone system is terrible.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll keep that in mind if I can't get through normally.

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Whatever you do, don't lie on your application about why you were terminated. Washington ESD will contact your employer and if the stories don't match, you'll be in trouble. Be honest about the performance issues.

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Good point. I wasn't planning to lie but I was wondering how detailed I need to be about the circumstances.

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Just stick to the facts - you were terminated for performance reasons, no formal warnings, employed for 2 years. Keep it simple and truthful.

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ugh the whole system is so stressful when you're already dealing with losing your job. But seriously file right away because there's a waiting period anyway and you want to get the process started.

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You're right, I'm already stressed enough. I'll file today. Do I need any specific documents?

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You'll need your Social Security number, employment history for the last 18 months, and your employer's information. Have your last pay stub handy too.

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I got fired for similar reasons - 'performance issues' that were really just them not liking me. Washington ESD approved my claim no problem. The investigator who called said as long as it wasn't willful misconduct or violation of company policy, you're good.

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They actually called you? How long after you filed?

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About 10 days later. They asked me to explain what happened and contacted my employer too. Whole thing was resolved within 2 weeks.

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That's pretty fast! My adjudication took over a month but that was during COVID craziness.

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Just make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. Fired for performance = usually eligible. Fired for misconduct = probably not eligible. Sounds like you're in the first category.

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Yeah it was definitely performance related, not misconduct. Thanks for clarifying that distinction.

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File online at esd.wa.gov - it's faster than calling. You'll create an account and answer questions about your employment and why you're no longer working. Be prepared to provide contact information for all employers in the last 18 months.

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Perfect, I'll do it online. Is there anything I should avoid saying in the application?

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Just be factual and don't embellish. Let Washington ESD make the determination based on the facts.

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Pro tip: if your claim goes into adjudication (which it might since you were fired), don't panic. It just means they need to investigate the circumstances. Most performance-related terminations get approved eventually.

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What's adjudication exactly? Is that when they review everything?

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Adjudication is when Washington ESD needs to make a determination about your eligibility. They'll contact you and your employer to get both sides of the story.

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Mine went to adjudication and I was so worried but it worked out fine. They approved my benefits after about 3 weeks.

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Don't forget you still need to be actively looking for work and filing your weekly claims even while your initial claim is being processed. Washington ESD requires job search activities.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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It's 3 job search activities per week. Can be applications, interviews, networking events, etc. Keep good records!

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I was in almost the exact same situation - retail job, 'performance issues' that felt like retaliation. Washington ESD approved my claim and I collected benefits for 4 months while job hunting. Don't let your former employer scare you.

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That's encouraging! Did your employer contest your claim at all?

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They didn't contest it. I think they knew they didn't have grounds since there was no formal disciplinary action.

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The system is designed to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. Performance issues usually fall into that category unless there was serious misconduct involved.

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That makes sense. I definitely didn't do anything that would be considered serious misconduct.

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I'm seeing more people mention this service. Might be worth trying if I get stuck.

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Yeah, Claimyr saved me so much time and stress. Their system just works better than trying to call directly.

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Also remember that even if you're initially denied, you have appeal rights. I know someone who got denied at first but won their appeal because the employer couldn't prove willful misconduct.

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Good to know there's a backup plan if things don't go smoothly initially.

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Quick question - were you given any reason to believe you might be fired? Like were there meetings about your performance or anything documented?

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No formal meetings or documentation. They just called me in yesterday and said it wasn't working out. Very sudden.

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That actually works in your favor. Lack of progressive discipline or formal warnings supports your case for benefits.

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File today if you can. The sooner you file, the sooner your benefit year starts. Even if there are delays in processing, your effective date will be when you first applied.

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I'm definitely filing today. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice and reassurance!

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One more thing - make sure you have all your employment information ready. Washington ESD will need details about wages, dates of employment, and reason for separation for your last job.

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I have my last pay stub and I know all the dates. Should be all set to file.

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Perfect. You sound well prepared. Good luck with your claim!

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I'll definitely keep that option in mind. Sounds like it could save a lot of headaches.

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Yeah, Claimyr is worth it just for the peace of mind. Washington ESD's phone system is notoriously difficult.

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