Fired without formal documentation - now stuck in ESD adjudication. Normal or red flag?
So I was suddenly terminated from my job last week with barely any explanation. I had ONE probation notice back in January (which I actually refused to sign because I disagreed with it), and nothing since then - no formal write-ups, no warnings, nothing in writing at all. My manager and I actually had what I thought was a positive check-in just two weeks before they fired me! When they let me go, my employer told me they "wouldn't contest my unemployment claim" and that I shouldn't worry about benefits. Well guess what? My claim is now stuck in adjudication limbo. I'm getting anxious because bills are piling up. Question for everyone: Does ESD automatically put EVERY termination into adjudication, or just the suspicious ones? Do people who get laid off also get stuck in adjudication? I'm trying to figure out if this is just standard procedure or if my former employer is actually fighting my claim despite what they said. This waiting game is driving me crazy!
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Carmen Ruiz
Unfortunately, most fired employees go through adjudication. It's standard procedure when there's a separation that isn't clearly a layoff. ESD has to determine if you were fired for misconduct, which would disqualify you from benefits. Even when employers don't formally contest, ESD still investigates the circumstances. Make sure you've submitted any documentation showing your side of the story. If you have emails or performance reviews that contradict the termination, upload those to your claim. Adjudication typically takes 3-5 weeks right now, but can stretch longer during busy periods. Did you receive any separation documentation when they terminated you? That could be helpful to have ready.
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Yuki Sato
•Thanks for the response! They didn't give me ANY separation paperwork - just called me into a meeting and told me it wasn't working out. When I asked for specifics they just said "it's not a good fit" and that my "communication style doesn't align with company values." Super vague. I don't have anything in writing except that one probation from January, which was about me supposedly being late to meetings (which I disputed). Should I upload that probation notice even though I didn't sign it?
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Andre Lefebvre
evry single fired person goes to adjudication, happens to everybody dont worry. my claim took 6 wks in adjudication and i got approved even tho my boss SAID he wasnt gonna fight it but then he DID!!! they lie all the time lol. just wait it out
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•This isn't entirely accurate. Not EVERY termination goes to adjudication, but many do. It depends on how the employer responds to ESD's initial inquiry. If they indicate anything suggesting possible misconduct, then it triggers adjudication. Some clean separations go through quickly. The problem is that employers often say one thing to your face and another thing to ESD. They tell you they won't contest it, then they report to ESD that you were terminated for cause. Always get EVERYTHING in writing!
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Jamal Anderson
I've been through this exact situation. Your former employer likely checked a box on their ESD response form indicating you were terminated rather than laid off, which automatically triggers adjudication. Even if they don't actively fight your claim, the mere fact that they reported a termination rather than a reduction in force means ESD has to investigate. Here's what I recommend: 1. Call ESD to check if your employer has actually contested your claim or provided any details about your termination 2. Submit a detailed statement explaining the lack of documentation and the positive meeting just before termination 3. List any witnesses who can verify your performance was satisfactory 4. Continue filing your weekly claims while in adjudication The lack of formal write-ups actually works in your favor. Without documented warnings, it's harder for them to prove misconduct.
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Mei Wong
•Calling ESD is almost impossible these days! I tried for two weeks straight when my claim was in adjudication and never got through. Always the same message about high call volume and then it hangs up. So frustrating!
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QuantumQuasar
I went thru this 2 months ago. Got fired cuz my manager didn't like me. No writeups either. ESD adjudication took FOREVER (7 weeks!!!) but I got approved. My advice: keep detailed notes about EVERYTHING. When u talk to ESD, write down who u talked to and what they said. This helped me a lot when they kept giving me different answers every time I called.
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Yuki Sato
•7 weeks?! I can't wait that long... I'm already behind on rent. Did you do anything to speed up the process?
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Liam McGuire
The adjudication process is standard procedure when there's a separation that isn't clearly a layoff. ESD must determine if you were fired for work-related misconduct, which would disqualify you from benefits. Even when employers verbally say they won't contest, ESD still investigates. I've been through this myself and helped numerous others navigate the system. Your lack of formal write-ups actually works in your favor. ESD typically looks for a pattern of documented warnings before accepting an employer's claim of misconduct. I suggest using Claimyr to actually reach an ESD agent directly (claimyr.com). Their service helped me get through when I was in a similar situation. They have a good video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 If you get through to ESD, ask these specific questions: 1. Has my employer responded to the initial claim? 2. Did they provide any documentation about my separation? 3. What's the current estimated timeline for adjudication completion? Keep filing your weekly claims while waiting for adjudication to complete!
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Yuki Sato
•Thanks for the suggestion! I hadn't heard of Claimyr before but I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. The video looks straightforward enough. Did you find out anything surprising when you finally got through to ESD?
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Amara Eze
Last year I got laid off (not fired) and my claim still went to adjudication for 3 weeks. I think they're just overworked and put everything in adjudication these days. Won't make a difference in the end if there's no misconduct documentation.
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Jamal Anderson
•This is incorrect. Layoffs don't automatically go to adjudication unless there are other complicating factors. Something else in your claim must have triggered review - perhaps wages from multiple employers or some other issue. A straightforward layoff should process without adjudication in most cases.
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Carmen Ruiz
To answer your original question more directly - adjudication is for any separation where ESD needs more information to determine eligibility. This includes: 1. Most terminations (they need to determine if misconduct occurred) 2. Quits (they need to determine if you had good cause) 3. Layoffs where the employer disputes the nature of separation 4. Cases with conflicting information In 2025, ESD is processing most clean layoffs without adjudication, but almost all terminations go through adjudication. The key is that they need to determine you weren't fired for misconduct (which would disqualify you). Since you mention having that one probation notice, they'll want to see if that relates to your termination. I recommend uploading it even though you didn't sign it, along with your explanation of why you disputed it. More documentation is better than less.
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Yuki Sato
•Thank you, this is really helpful! I'll upload that probation notice along with my explanation. The frustrating part is that the probation was from January, and we had multiple positive conversations since then where they indicated things were going well. I wish I had those in writing now.
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Mei Wong
I've heard if you contact your state representative's office they can sometimes expedite your claim. My friend was stuck in adjudication for 5 weeks and called their state rep, suddenly got approved 3 days later. Worth a try!
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Andre Lefebvre
•this actually works!! my cousin did this back in december when his claim was stuck for 2 months!! the ESD people hate when u do this but who cares lol they should do their jobs faster
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Liam McGuire
Quick update on the Claimyr service I mentioned - I just want to clarify that when I used it, I was able to get through to ESD within about 25 minutes instead of spending days trying to call myself. The agent I spoke with told me my employer had actually submitted a response claiming I was terminated for "excessive absences" which was completely untrue. I was able to contest this immediately and provide documentation showing perfect attendance. If I hadn't gotten through, I would have never known what they were claiming. Sometimes finding out what your employer is actually telling ESD is half the battle.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•This is exactly why it's so important to find out what your employer is saying! I've seen so many cases where the employer tells the employee one thing ("we won't contest your claim") and then tells ESD something completely different. The lack of transparency in this process is infuriating.
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Yuki Sato
Update: I tried the Claimyr service that was recommended, and I actually got through to ESD! The agent told me my employer DID respond and said I was terminated for "failure to meet performance expectations" but they didn't provide any documentation to back it up. The agent said without documentation, it would likely be decided in my favor, but the adjudication could still take 4-6 more weeks due to backlog. I explained about the lack of write-ups and the positive meeting two weeks before termination, and she added notes to my claim. She also suggested I upload a written statement explaining this in detail, which I just did. Frustrated that my employer wasn't honest with me about not contesting, but at least now I know what I'm dealing with. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Carmen Ruiz
•Great update! This is exactly why it's so important to find out what the employer is saying. The good news is that "failure to meet performance expectations" without documentation is generally not considered misconduct for UI purposes. Poor performance alone usually doesn't disqualify you from benefits unless they can show willful disregard for their legitimate business interests. The notes you had added to your claim and your written statement will help tremendously. Keep filing those weekly claims while you wait!
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