Finally had my ESD overpayment waiver appeal hearing after 5 months of waiting
So I just got off the phone from my appeal hearing with OAH about an overpayment waiver that ESD denied back in November! I've been waiting almost 5 months for this hearing date to arrive and I'm honestly just exhausted. The overpayment amount they're claiming is $6,200 which I absolutely cannot afford to pay back right now. I was fortunate enough to get help from Unemployment Law Project who provided an attorney for my case. She was amazing at explaining the legal jargon and helped me prepare all my financial documents to prove paying this back would cause significant hardship. This whole nightmare started because ESD claimed I didn't report some part-time income correctly in 2023, but I swear I reported everything exactly as instructed on the weekly claim forms. The ESD adjudicator who denied my waiver basically said I should have known better, but how was I supposed to know when their instructions are so confusing? Anyway, the judge said we should hear a decision within 2-3 weeks. This entire process has been going on for almost 1.5 years now and the stress has been unbearable. I'm just hoping it finally goes in my favor so I can put this behind me. Has anyone else gone through an appeal hearing with OAH? How long did it take to get your decision?
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Kiara Fisherman
I went through an OAH hearing last year for a similar overpayment situation. In my case, I received the judge's decision exactly 15 days after the hearing. The good news is that having representation from Unemployment Law Project significantly increases your chances of success. They know exactly what legal arguments work with the judges. Make sure to check your mail daily (including your spam folder if they contact you electronically). The decision will come as an official document called an "Initial Order" that explains the judge's reasoning in detail. If the judge rules in your favor, ESD has 30 days to appeal that decision, but they rarely do. One tip: if you haven't already, send a follow-up email to your attorney thanking them for their help and asking them to let you know immediately if they hear anything. Sometimes the attorneys get the decision slightly before you do.
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Jason Brewer
•Thank you so much for this info! I'll definitely keep checking my mail carefully. My attorney did say she'd contact me as soon as she hears anything. Did you win your appeal? The judge seemed pretty neutral during the hearing so I couldn't tell which way she was leaning.
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Liam Cortez
i had my hearing in january and still havent got a desision yet!!! its been like 14 weeks now and nobody will tell me whats going on. i call OAH and they just say "its still pending" every time. this whole system is a JOKE
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Savannah Vin
•That's unusual - most OAH decisions come within 2-4 weeks. If you've been waiting 14 weeks, you should contact your state representative's office. They have constituent services staff who can help push things along. Also, double-check that they have your correct mailing address and email. Sometimes decisions get sent but never reach people because of outdated contact info.
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Mason Stone
For what it's worth, I had my appeal hearing back in February about a $4,300 overpayment. The judge ruled in my favor and waived the entire amount! It took about 3 weeks to get the decision. The fact that you had an attorney is HUGE - I didn't and I was so nervous I could barely speak during my hearing. Have you tried checking your appeal status online through the OAH portal? Sometimes they update the status there before sending the official decision. By the way, if anyone else is struggling to reach ESD by phone to discuss overpayments or appeals, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual human at ESD in about 20 minutes instead of spending days trying to get through. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. Totally worth it for the peace of mind of actually talking to someone who could explain my options.
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Jason Brewer
•That's great you won your appeal! Gives me hope. I didn't know about the OAH portal - I'll check that out. My attorney did say that having documentation of my finances was crucial, so I made sure to bring bank statements, my lease, utility bills, everything showing I can't afford to pay this back.
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Makayla Shoemaker
CONGRATZ on getting ur hearing!!! mine took 8 months to finally happen and then the judge ruled against me anyway so now im on a payment plan for the next 4 years paying back $9,000 ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ ESD is the absolute worst agency ever!!!! The whole time my adjudicator kept sayin different things in different letters i got
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Christian Bierman
•I'm sorry to hear about your experience. Did you have any representation at your hearing? I've found that having someone who understands unemployment law makes a huge difference in these cases. From what I've seen, about 60-70% of overpayment waiver appeals are successful when the claimant has representation, versus maybe 30% when they go at it alone. For anyone dealing with overpayments: make sure you file your waiver request within 30 days of receiving the overpayment notice, and if it's denied, file your appeal within 30 days as well. Missing these deadlines makes things much more difficult.
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Emma Olsen
I had a similar overpayment issue ($5,800) and also worked with ULP. My hearing was in December and I got my decision in January - they waived the entire amount! The judge actually scolded ESD in the decision for not properly explaining the reporting requirements. One thing I learned during my process: judges care A LOT about whether you made an honest mistake vs. trying to deceive ESD. If you can show you were trying your best to follow the rules and just misunderstood something, they're usually pretty sympathetic. FYI - if for some reason the judge doesn't rule in your favor, don't panic. You can request a payment plan as low as $25/month. Also, ESD cannot garnish your wages or take money from your bank account without going through additional legal processes first.
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Jason Brewer
•That's exactly what happened to me - I honestly thought I was reporting everything correctly. The weekly claim questions are so confusing! I'm hoping the judge sees that I was acting in good faith. And thank you for the info about payment plans - that's reassuring to know if things don't go my way.
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Lucas Lindsey
my neighbpr had this same exact problem last year!!! she sad it took almost a month to get the desicion but they ruled in her favor. but then ESD still tried to colect the money anyway!!! she had to call them like 5 times to get it fixed. make shore you keep ALL your paperwork
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Savannah Vin
•This is an important point. Even after winning an appeal, you need to follow up with ESD to make sure they actually implement the decision. Their computer systems don't always update automatically. I recommend calling ESD about 2 weeks after receiving a favorable decision to confirm they've processed it correctly. Keep a copy of the judge's order forever - seriously, I've seen people need it years later.
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Christian Bierman
I work as an employment counselor and see overpayment cases regularly. Here's what typically happens after an OAH hearing: 1. Judge issues decision within 2-4 weeks (average is about 18 days) 2. If you win, ESD has 30 days to implement the decision or file their own appeal 3. If ESD doesn't appeal, the overpayment should be waived and removed from your account The fact that you had representation from ULP is excellent. Their attorneys win the vast majority of their cases. The most common reason judges waive overpayments is financial hardship, so all those documents you provided showing your expenses and income will be crucial. One thing to prepare for: if you win, you might still see the overpayment listed in your ESD account for a few weeks until they process the waiver. Don't panic if this happens - it's just administrative lag time.
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Jason Brewer
•Thank you for this detailed timeline! It helps to know what to expect. The waiting is honestly the hardest part. I just want this nightmare to be over so I can stop stressing about a debt I can't afford to pay.
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Sophie Duck
I know exactly how you feel about the stress. I had an overpayment issue too but never got as far as an appeal hearing because I couldn't figure out the process. I just ended up on a payment plan ($150/month for 3 years). It's hard but I'm managing. The whole system seems designed to be confusing. Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
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Kiara Fisherman
•That's unfortunate you weren't able to appeal. For anyone else reading this who's dealing with an overpayment: every denial letter from ESD should include information about how to appeal, and you generally have 30 days from the date on the letter. If you miss that window, you can sometimes still file a late appeal with a good reason for the delay. Also worth noting that ULP (Unemployment Law Project) provides free legal help for people dealing with unemployment issues, especially if you're low-income. They can help with appeals, overpayments, and other ESD problems.
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