ESD overpayment finally resolved after 16-month battle - Success story & lessons learned
Just wanted to share a victory with folks who might be struggling with ESD overpayments. My saga started in January 2025 when I got hit with a $7,250 overpayment notice claiming I hadn't reported earnings correctly for 3 months. I was SHOCKED because I'd reported everything down to the penny each week. Turns out my employer had retroactively adjusted my hours in their system but never told me! The initial appeal was denied (they didn't even look at my documentation). The second appeal dragged on for 5 months before getting rejected on a technicality. I almost gave up but filed one more appeal with OAH and finally got a fair hearing where the judge actually reviewed my evidence. After that, ESD offered to settle for 25% of the original amount, which I accepted just to end this nightmare. Key things that helped me: - Keeping EVERY piece of documentation (screenshots of weekly filings, pay stubs, emails to/from employer) - Getting a signed statement from my supervisor about the retroactive time sheet changes - Making sure to cite specific RCW statutes in my appeal letters - Being extremely detailed about dates and amounts in dispute This has been hanging over my head for 16 excruciating months. The stress has been unbearable at times. Just wanted to thank this group for the advice and support and let others know there IS light at the end of the tunnel!
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Arnav Bengali
congrats!! thats awesome news. im in month 8 of my appeal and starting to lose hope. did u have a lawyer or did u do it all yourself?
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Scarlett Forster
•No lawyer - couldn't afford one. I did consult with the Unemployment Law Project for free advice, which was super helpful. They have a hotline you can call. The biggest thing is just documenting EVERYTHING and being super organized with your evidence.
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Sayid Hassan
This is incredibly helpful information. A lot of people don't realize that when facing an ESD overpayment, the burden of proof is technically on the claimant to demonstrate they provided accurate information. Your approach of maintaining comprehensive documentation is exactly what's needed. One thing I'd add about overpayment settlements - when ESD offers a reduced amount, be sure to get the settlement agreement in writing before making any payments. I've seen cases where partial payments were made without formal agreements, and the remaining balance was still pursued. Also, for anyone in similar situations, the hearing process allows you to request all documents ESD is using against you before your hearing date. Always exercise this right - you'd be amazed how often there are discrepancies you can use to strengthen your case.
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Rachel Tao
•Wait so can ESD just randomly decide whenever they want that you owe them money??? Even years later??? This is terrifying! I'm on unemployment right now and report everything correctly but now I'm paranoid they'll come after me in the future!
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Sayid Hassan
•They generally have up to 3 years to identify and assess overpayments, but there are exceptions that can extend this timeline. The best protection is exactly what the OP did - keep detailed records of everything: screenshots of your weekly claim submissions, any communications with ESD, pay stubs, and work search activities. Store these securely for at least 4 years after your claim ends.
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Derek Olson
Congrats! I went through something similar but gave up after the second appeal. BIG MISTAKE. Ended up having to pay back $4,800 that I honestly didn't owe. Wish I'd had your perseverance!!! Did they charge you interest on the overpayment amount during those 16 months?
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Scarlett Forster
•No interest, thankfully! But they were threatening to send it to collections if I didn't resolve it, which would have destroyed my credit score. They also mentioned potential garnishment of future wages. The anxiety from those threats was almost worse than the financial hit itself.
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Danielle Mays
This is really encouraging to read. I'm currently in month 5 of my overpayment battle with ESD. They claim I wasn't eligible for benefits during a 7-week period because I "wasn't available for work" despite the fact I was actively applying for jobs and had documented everything. Can I ask what specific documentation format worked best for you? Did you organize everything chronologically or by type of document? And did you submit everything all at once or introduce new evidence at each appeal level? The ESD appeals process feels deliberately complicated to discourage people from fighting back. Your success story gives me hope!
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Scarlett Forster
•I organized everything two ways - chronologically in one file and by document type in another. For each appeal level, I submitted the COMPLETE set of evidence again, even if I had submitted it before. Don't assume they'll look at previous submissions. The "available for work" issue is tricky. Make sure you have documentation of your job search activities for each week they're questioning. The more detailed, the better - names, dates, application confirmation emails, etc. Good luck with your case!
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Roger Romero
i had this same situation happen except my employer straight up LIED about my hours worked. said i worked when i didnt. tried to fight it but gave up after 6 months cuz esd doesnt even read what you submit. system is broken!!
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Anna Kerber
•If you're still within the time limit, you might want to try reopening your case. One strategy that sometimes works is getting through to an ESD claims specialist who can review the documentation directly rather than waiting for the formal appeals process. Getting through to ESD by phone is nearly impossible with standard methods, but I've had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a system that gets you through the phone queue much faster. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Sometimes talking to the right person can resolve these issues without going through the full appeal process, especially if you have clear evidence your employer reported incorrect information.
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Roger Romero
•thx for the tip. prob too late for me but might help somebody else reading this
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Niko Ramsey
Props for sticking with it! I gave up after my first appeal and just set up a payment plan. Now I'm wondering if I should have fought harder...
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Danielle Mays
I'm curious about the settlement process. Did ESD approach you with the settlement offer, or did you suggest it to them? And approximately how long after your OAH hearing did they make the offer?
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Scarlett Forster
•About two weeks after the OAH hearing (where the judge seemed skeptical of ESD's evidence), I got a call from an ESD representative who said they'd "reviewed my case further" and were willing to settle. I think they realized they might lose completely if the judge ruled in my favor, so they offered the settlement as a compromise. I probably could have fought for a better deal, but honestly, I was just so exhausted by the whole process that I accepted the 25% offer.
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Rachel Tao
OMG this is my worst nightmare!!! I've been on unemployment since December and I'm TERRIFIED they're going to say I did something wrong even though I've been super careful. Did they freeze your account during the appeals? Could you still file weekly claims? I'm scared they'll just cut me off if there's ever a problem! 😫
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Scarlett Forster
•My benefits had already ended when they issued the overpayment notice, so I can't speak to that specific situation. But from what I've heard from others, if you're appealing an overpayment but still receiving benefits, you can continue filing weekly claims. They might hold payments until the appeal is resolved, though.
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Sayid Hassan
•You should absolutely continue filing weekly claims even if your benefits are temporarily suspended due to an issue or appeal. If you stop filing and later win your appeal, you won't be able to receive retroactive payments for weeks you didn't submit claims. Always continue claiming, even if payments are on hold.
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Seraphina Delan
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO WEAR YOU DOWN UNTIL YOU GIVE UP! They know most people don't have the time, energy, or resources to fight for 16 MONTHS like you did. For every person like you who successfully fights back, there are probably dozens who just pay money they don't owe because they can't deal with the bureaucratic nightmare anymore. ESD is corrupt at its core.
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Arnav Bengali
•facts!!! took 10 weeks just to get my initial claim approved and now they wanna say i owe them $ for a mistake THEY made. how is that fair???
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Sayid Hassan
For anyone dealing with an overpayment situation, remember there are several options beyond just appealing: 1. Payment plans - ESD is required to work with you on an affordable plan 2. Waiver requests - If repayment would cause significant financial hardship, you can apply for a waiver 3. Compromise settlements (like OP got) - Sometimes ESD will accept a reduced amount 4. Bankruptcy - In some cases, unemployment overpayments can be discharged Regardless of which route you take, always respond to notices within the required timeframes. Missing deadlines severely limits your options.
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Scarlett Forster
•This is excellent advice. I actually tried the waiver route first but was denied because they determined the overpayment was due to "misreporting" (which it wasn't - it was their error). But the compromise settlement ended up being a good alternative. One thing I learned is that you can pursue multiple options simultaneously - I had both an appeal and a waiver request in process at the same time.
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Jabari-Jo
16 months is ridiculous! The system is broken. But congrats on winning your fight!
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Scarlett Forster
Just wanted to add one more tip that helped me: I kept a detailed log of every single phone call with ESD, including the date, time, name of the person I spoke with, and what they told me. This turned out to be crucial evidence because I could point to specific instances where I received conflicting information from different ESD representatives. The OAH judge seemed particularly interested in this documentation.
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Derek Olson
•Smart!!! I never thought to log the names of reps I talked to. No wonder my appeal failed - it was basically my word against theirs with nothing to back me up.
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