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AstroAlpha

ESD overpayment notice from 2020-21 for $200 - appeal vs pay? Can I just call or write a letter?

I just checked my email and found a notice from ESD saying I was overpaid $200 sometime between February 2020 and 2021 (during the pandemic). According to the email, my options are to either appeal it or pay it online through my SecureAccess Washington account. The thing is, I want more information about WHY they think I was overpaid before I do anything. I don't feel comfortable just paying it online without understanding what happened. Does anyone know if there are better times to call ESD to actually get through to a real person? I've tried calling before and it's impossible. Has anyone had success writing a letter instead of using their online system? I'd really appreciate any advice on the best way to handle this!

Diego Chavez

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just pay it. not worth the hassle for $200 tbh

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AstroAlpha

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I get what you're saying, but it's the principle of it. I reported everything correctly and I want to understand why they're saying I owe money 5 years later.

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I had this exact situation last year with a $375 overpayment notice from 2020. When I finally got through to ESD, they explained it was because my employer reported different wages than what I had entered on one of my weekly claims. Do NOT just pay it without understanding why first! You have three options: 1. Appeal within 30 days (the clock is ticking from the date on the notice) 2. Request a payment plan if you decide not to appeal 3. Get more information by speaking with an agent I would definitely recommend trying to speak with an ESD representative before making any decisions. They can pull up the specific details about why you were overpaid.

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AstroAlpha

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Thank you! This is really helpful. How did you finally get through to an actual person at ESD? I've tried calling before and it's nearly impossible.

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Sean O'Brien

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I tried writting a letter last year and NEVER HEARD BACK!!! Its like they threw it in the trash. Took me 2 weeks of calling to finally get thru to a real person. The system is so broken!!!! When I finally got someone they said I should have just filed an appeal online instead of writting because letters get lost in there system.

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You're right that their mail processing is terrible. I learned that you should always send letters certified mail with return receipt if you absolutely have to use mail. But online or phone is definitely better.

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Zara Shah

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Few tips on calling ESD: Try calling precisely at 8:00 AM when they open or right after lunch around 1:15 PM. I've had better luck on Wednesdays and Thursdays for some reason. Also, if the automated system says they're experiencing high call volume, hang up and immediately call back instead of waiting on hold - sometimes you'll get a different message and can get in the queue.

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AstroAlpha

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Thanks for the specific times! I'll try tomorrow at 8am sharp. Did you have to try multiple days in a row?

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Luca Bianchi

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I went through this last year with an $800 overpayment notice from 2021. I called for weeks and couldn't get through. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The ESD agent explained that in my case, they had recalculated my benefit amount after an employer submitted corrected wage information. I ended up providing additional documentation and got the overpayment waived. Definitely worth understanding the reason before you decide whether to appeal or pay.

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Sean O'Brien

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Does that claimyr service actually work??? Seems sketchy to me but Im desperate at this point dealing with ESD

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Luca Bianchi

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@anxiousclaimant Yes, it worked for me. They basically keep dialing for you until they get through, then connect you. The ESD agent never knew I used a service - they just thought I was a regular caller who got through. Saved me hours of redial frustration.

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Diego Chavez

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wait is this legal? feels like cutting in line

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To answer your question about writing a letter - I did this successfully, but there are very specific requirements. You MUST include: 1. Your full name as it appears on your claim 2. Your complete SSN (all 9 digits) 3. Your current mailing address 4. A phone number where they can reach you 5. Reference to the specific overpayment notice (include the notice ID number) Send it certified mail with return receipt to: Employment Security Department Benefit Payment Control PO Box 9046 Olympia, WA 98507-9046 It took them about 3 weeks to respond to my letter, so it's not fast, but they did eventually call me.

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AstroAlpha

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This is super helpful, thank you for the detailed information! If I can't get through by phone I'll try this method. I appreciate you sharing the exact address and what to include.

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Nia Harris

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u should know that u have exactly 30 days from the date on the notice to file an appeal otherwise the overpayment will become final and they'll start collections. even while ur trying to get more info from them, make sure u dont miss that deadline. better to file the appeal as a precaution and then withdraw it later if u decide to pay

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This is excellent advice. Always file the appeal within the deadline even if you're still trying to get information. You can always withdraw it later, but you can't file it after the deadline passes.

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AstroAlpha

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Update: I finally got through to ESD this morning! Called right at 8:00 AM like someone suggested. Turns out the overpayment was because I accidentally reported working 15 hours one week in 2020 when my employer reported 19 hours. The agent was actually really helpful and I'm going to send in some old pay stubs I found to contest it. They put a hold on collections while I gather my documentation. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Glad you got through! One more tip - make copies of EVERYTHING you send them and keep a log of every conversation (date, time, agent name if possible). I learned the hard way that sometimes things get "lost" in their system and you need proof of what you've submitted and when.

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AstroAlpha

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That's great advice. I'll definitely make copies of everything and start keeping a log. Thanks again!

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