ESD denied me for 'gross misconduct' but my termination was exaggerated - worth appealing with mental health documentation?
I'm in a really tough spot and need advice about appealing an ESD denial. My employer fired me for supposedly not running the correct testing procedures on a specific process. They gave me a separation letter citing 'gross misconduct' which I stupidly signed without reading carefully because I felt pressured in the moment. Here's the thing - I have text messages from the General Manager showing he didn't even know what 'gross misconduct' meant when they first let me go, and indicated the reason wasn't 'that big a deal.' I suspect there were political issues at play that contributed to my termination more than performance issues. I filed for unemployment and ESD denied my claim based on this gross misconduct classification. I also have documented mental health issues caused by workplace stress (with doctor's notes) that affected my performance toward the end. Is it worth appealing this decision? Has anyone successfully appealed a misconduct denial, especially with medical documentation? I'm really stressed about finances and don't know if fighting this would just waste time when I could be job hunting instead. Any experiences or advice would help tremendously.
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Marcus Williams
YES - absolutely appeal! You have several strong factors in your favor: 1) Text evidence showing your GM didn't understand the 'gross misconduct' designation 2) Medical documentation of work-related mental health issues 3) The fact that you were pressured to sign paperwork without fully understanding it The ESD appeal process takes time but is designed to give you an opportunity to present your full case. File your appeal immediately since there's a strict deadline (usually 30 days from the denial date). Make sure to include copies of those text messages and medical documentation with your appeal paperwork. The appeal will lead to a hearing with an Administrative Law Judge where you can explain your side. Gross misconduct is a high bar for employers to prove - they need to show deliberate violation of company policy that harmed their interests. If it was just a mistake or your mental health affected your work, that shouldn't qualify as gross misconduct.
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Jessica Suarez
•Thank you for such a detailed response! I'm definitely going to appeal then. Do you know if I need to continue filing weekly claims while waiting for the appeal hearing? My denial letter wasn't clear about that part.
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Lily Young
APPEAL RIGHT NOW!!!!! don't wait. I got fired for 'misconduct' too and my boss totally exaggerated what happened. i was denied benefits at first but won my appeal and got ALL my backpay. the rules say 'misconduct' has to be intentional disregard for the employers interests. if you were having mental health problems and made mistakes because of that, it's NOT misconduct!!! make sure u say that in ur appeal!!
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Jessica Suarez
•Thanks for sharing your experience - that's encouraging to hear! Did you have a lawyer for your appeal hearing or did you represent yourself?
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Lily Young
•i represented myself. just be honest and bring ALL your evidence. the judge at my hearing was actually really nice and fair. he asked me questions and let me explain everything. my ex-boss couldn't prove i did anything on purpose. the whole thing took like 45 mins
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Kennedy Morrison
I used to work in HR and can tell you that 'gross misconduct' has a specific meaning in unemployment cases. It generally requires showing intentional disregard for the employer's interests or willful violation of policies - not just making mistakes or performing poorly. Your mental health documentation is particularly important here, as it shows there were factors affecting your performance that weren't willful on your part. One thing to be careful about though - did your company have a progressive discipline policy they should have followed before termination? If they jumped straight to firing when their own policy required warnings first, that's another point in your favor.
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Jessica Suarez
•That's really helpful perspective! They did have a 3-warning policy in the handbook, and I only received one verbal warning about a completely different issue months earlier. Should I mention this in my appeal too?
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Kennedy Morrison
•Absolutely mention the progressive discipline policy! That's extremely relevant. If they violated their own policy by not following the established disciplinary steps, it strengthens your case that this wasn't truly "gross misconduct" but rather an improper termination. Bring a copy of the employee handbook section that outlines this policy to your hearing.
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Wesley Hallow
My sister had a similar situation last year and trying to call ESD to explain was IMPOSSIBLE. she kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. she finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got her connected to an ESD agent in under 10 minutes. she was able to explain her appeal situation and get guidance on exactly what documentation to include. they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 might be worth checking out so you can talk to someone at ESD directly about your specific case before the appeal hearing. good luck!
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Jessica Suarez
•Oh wow, I've been trying to get through to ESD for days with no luck. I'll definitely check this out - thanks for the tip! It would help to talk to someone directly about my case.
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Justin Chang
you should definitly appeal but KEEP FILING YOUR WEEKLY CLAIMS while you wait!!!! this is super important!!! even though ur denied right now, if u win the appeal they will only pay u for weeks that u filed claims for. if u dont file during the waiting period u lose that money forever even if u win later!!!!!!
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Jessica Suarez
•Thank you!! I didn't realize I needed to keep filing. I'll make sure to do that right away.
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Grace Thomas
When you file your appeal, be very specific about the timeline and evidence you have. I've been through two ESD appeals (won both) and organization makes a huge difference. Create a simple document that outlines: 1. Exact date of termination 2. Date and content of the text messages from your GM (with screenshots attached) 3. Dates of medical treatment and diagnoses 4. Any relevant performance reviews or feedback showing you were in good standing 5. Any violation of their progressive discipline policy Also, did you disclose your mental health condition to your employer before termination? If they failed to provide reasonable accommodation for a documented condition, that's another potential angle for your appeal.
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Jessica Suarez
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you! I did tell my supervisor about my anxiety and depression about 2 months before termination. I requested reduced overtime hours as an accommodation but was told that wasn't possible due to staffing shortages. I don't have this in writing though - just verbal conversations.
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Grace Thomas
•Even verbal requests for accommodation are valid. Make note of approximately when you had these conversations and with whom. The judge may ask your former employer about this during the hearing. If they denied a reasonable accommodation request and then fired you for performance issues related to the very condition you sought accommodation for, that significantly strengthens your case.
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Hunter Brighton
I think ur all missing something important here. The employer can still win even with mental health documentation if they can prove they didn't KNOW about the condition at the time. ESD only cares if the employer knew you needed accommodation and refused it. If you never told them officially or requested ADA accommodation through HR, they might still win the misconduct claim. Just be prepared for that possibility.
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Jessica Suarez
•That's a good point I hadn't considered. I did tell my direct supervisor verbally, but never made a formal written request to HR. I assumed telling my boss was sufficient. Does that weaken my case?
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Hunter Brighton
•It makes it more complicated but not impossible. Telling your supervisor can count as notifying the company in many cases - supervisors are agents of the employer. But it's easier to prove with documentation. Did you ever mention your condition in emails or texts to your supervisor? Any written evidence would help.
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Jessica Suarez
•I do have a text where I mentioned needing to leave early for a therapy appointment and briefly mentioned it was for work-related anxiety. That's probably the only written evidence I have though.
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Lily Young
Make sure you know how long you have to appeal!!! I think its 30 days from when you got the denial but don't wait!!! The sooner you appeal the faster you'll get your hearing!!!
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Jessica Suarez
•You're right - the letter says 30 days. It's been about a week so I still have time, but I'm going to get it filed this weekend for sure.
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Marcus Williams
One more important thing - the burden of proof is on the employer to prove gross misconduct, not on you to disprove it. In your hearing, let them present their case first. They'll need to show clear evidence that you intentionally violated policies with awareness that it could harm the company. Testing errors alone usually don't meet this standard unless they can prove you deliberately skipped required steps knowing it would cause harm. Also, remember to stay calm during the hearing. It can be stressful, but judges respond better to clear, factual statements than emotional arguments. Stick to the timeline of events, the evidence you have, and the medical documentation. Don't get drawn into arguments about workplace politics or personalities.
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Jessica Suarez
•Thank you for this advice. I tend to get anxious in confrontational situations (part of my documented condition), so I'll prepare myself to stay calm and factual. It's reassuring to know they have the burden of proof, not me.
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