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ESD benefits for leave of absence between school years? Medical leave expired

I'm in a confusing situation with my school district employer. I've been out on Paid Medical Leave Assistance (PMLA) for a non-work injury since last fall, but my benefits ran out in January. My doctor says I'll be cleared to return to work by the end of March, which I've communicated to my school. Now HR is telling me I either need to formally request a leave of absence or resign completely. If I take the leave of absence option, I'll basically be unemployed from now until the start of next school year in September. Would I qualify for unemployment benefits during this gap? The school said I could return to a "similar position" next school year, but nothing is guaranteed. I'm worried about how I'll cover expenses for the next 6 months without income. Has anyone dealt with something like this? Do school employees qualify for UI between terms if they're on leave of absence? I've never applied for unemployment before and I'm getting conflicting advice from coworkers.

Jason Brewer

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From my expeeirnce, school employees usally DONT qualify for unemployment during summer breaks or between school years because its considered a "reasonable assurance" of continued employment. BUT your situation seems different since your on medical leave. Have you talked to the ESD directly? They can tell you if your eligibe or not.

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Nina Fitzgerald

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Thanks for responding. I haven't contacted ESD yet - I was hoping to get a better understanding before I call them. I've tried calling the district HR office again but they just keep directing me to fill out the leave of absence form without answering my benefits questions.

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Kiara Fisherman

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This is a unique situation that combines several different aspects of unemployment eligibility. Here's what you need to know: 1. School employees with "reasonable assurance" of returning to work typically don't qualify for benefits during scheduled breaks (summer, winter, spring breaks). 2. However, if you're on a medical leave of absence that extends beyond your typical contract, you might qualify during that period because it's not a standard break period. 3. The key issue is whether your leave of absence is voluntary or involuntary. If the school is essentially forcing you to take leave because they can't accommodate your medical restrictions, that's different from voluntarily taking time off. 4. You should apply for UI and explain your specific situation in detail. Make sure to note that your PMLA benefits have expired, your doctor has a specific return date, and that the school is requiring you to either resign or take leave. 5. Be prepared for an adjudication process where ESD will likely contact your employer to confirm the details. I would recommend applying as soon as possible, as the determination process can take several weeks.

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Nina Fitzgerald

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! That makes a lot of sense. It sounds like I should go ahead and apply and just be very clear about the circumstances. Do you know if I need any specific documentation from my employer or doctor when I apply?

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Liam Cortez

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I went thru something similar last year but with a different school district. Ended up in a horrible limbo where I couldnt get UI because the school said I had "reasonable assurance" but I had no income for months!!! The ESD phone lines were impossible - I would be on hold for 3+ hours then get disconnected. It was a NIGHTMARE trying to get someone to actually review my claim.

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Savannah Vin

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Nina Fitzgerald

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That sounds awful! I'm worried about ending up in the same situation. Did you eventually get it resolved or were you just without income that whole time?

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Mason Stone

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THE SCHOOLS ALWAYS TRY TO PULL THIS CRAP!! They force you into a "leave of absence" so they don't have to pay unemployment!! They did the exact same thing to my sister who was a para-educator. They know exactly what they're doing. If they wanted to keep you they could find light duty work but instead they're pushing you out until they decide if they want you back next year. APPLY FOR UI AND FIGHT FOR IT!!!

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While I understand your frustration, this isn't necessarily accurate in all cases. School districts operate under specific budget and staffing constraints. What matters for UI eligibility is whether the leave is truly voluntary or if the employer is unable to accommodate medical restrictions. The OP should definitely apply, but they'll need to document the situation carefully rather than approaching it as a battle with the district.

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Liam Cortez

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I think you might qualfy for UI but here's what will happen - they'll probably deny you initially and then you have to appeal. Thats what happened to me. Make sure you save ALL emails and documents from your school showing they're making you take leave. Also get something in writing from your doctor about when you can return to work. You'll need everything documented for the appeal.

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Nina Fitzgerald

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This is good advice - I've started a folder with all the communications. I have the email where they gave me the resign/leave of absence ultimatum and I'm getting my doctor to provide a formal letter with my expected return date. Sounds like I should be prepared for the long haul with this.

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wait im confused about somethng... is PMLA the same as Paid Family Medical Leave? or is that a different program? i thought PFML could last up to 12 weeks?

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They're different programs. PMLA (Paid Medical Leave Assistance) is often an employer-specific benefit program, while PFML (Paid Family Medical Leave) is Washington State's program that provides up to 12 weeks of paid leave. It sounds like the original poster was using an employer-provided benefit that has now expired, not the state PFML program. OP - have you looked into whether you qualify for state PFML? That might be another option to bridge the gap.

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Kiara Fisherman

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Here's what I recommend you do: 1. Apply for UI benefits right away online at esd.wa.gov 2. In your application, clearly explain that you were on medical leave, that your benefits expired, and that your employer is requiring you to take a leave of absence or resign because they cannot accommodate your temporary restrictions 3. Gather documentation: doctor's note with return date, communications from your school about the leave of absence requirement, any written policies about returning to work 4. If you get denied initially (which is common in complex cases), immediately file an appeal - you'll have 30 days to do so 5. While waiting for UI, also apply for PFML if you haven't already to see if you qualify for that program 6. Consider requesting a determination interview with ESD where you can explain your situation in detail The key issue is demonstrating that your unemployment is not your fault and that despite having "reasonable assurance" for next school year, you're being forced into this gap in employment.

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Nina Fitzgerald

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Thank you for laying this out so clearly. I'm going to start the application process today. I'm feeling better knowing I at least have a path forward, even if it might involve some appeals. I appreciate everyone's help with this!

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Jason Brewer

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did u check if ur eligible for disabillity benefits? might be easier than dealing with ESD and all their rules about school employees...

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Nina Fitzgerald

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I hadn't considered that. My injury is improving and I should be able to work by end of March, so I'm not sure if I'd qualify for disability at this point. But it's worth looking into as another option. Thanks for the suggestion!

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