Transitioning from ESD unemployment to PFML - how is wage calculation different?
I've been on regular UI benefits for about 3 months after getting laid off from my construction job. My doctor is recommending I take medical leave for a surgery and recovery that I've been putting off. Someone mentioned I might qualify for Paid Family Medical Leave, but I'm confused about how this works with unemployment. Can I transition directly from UI to PFML? And how would they calculate my benefit amount since I haven't been working? Would they use the same base year as unemployment did or would they look at something different? My UI weekly benefit is $785 right now.
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Millie Long
Yes, you can transition from unemployment to PFML, but the wage calculations work differently. PFML uses the same base year as your unemployment claim (the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you filed). The big difference is that PFML pays 90% of wages up to a certain amount, then 50% after that, up to a maximum weekly benefit. So your benefit could be higher or lower than your current UI. You'll need to file a separate application on the PFML website (paidleave.wa.gov) and have your doctor complete medical certification. Just be aware that once you start PFML, your UI stops - you can't collect both at the same time.
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Santiago Diaz
•Thanks for explaining! So they'll look at the same period as when I applied for UI in February 2025? That makes it a bit easier. Do you know if there's a waiting period between UI and PFML or can I just apply now and transition immediately when approved?
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KaiEsmeralda
i went from ui to pfml last year and it was a mess tbh. esd and pfml dont talk to each other AT ALL even tho there both state programs!!! my ui got messed up and they tried to say i was claiming both at same time which i wasnt. took like 6 weeks to fix and i had no income. make sure u tell ui ur stopping when u start pfml!!
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Santiago Diaz
•Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare. I definitely don't want to end up with no income for weeks. Did you have to call both agencies or was there a form to fill out?
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Debra Bai
The wage calculation for PFML is based on your wages in the qualifying period, which is typically the same base year that ESD used for your unemployment claim. They look at your total wages during that period, not just your recent unemployed months. However, PFML benefits are calculated differently than UI benefits. PFML pays: - 90% of your average weekly wage (AWW) that is less than 50% of the state average weekly wage - 50% of your AWW that is more than 50% of the state average weekly wage - Maximum benefit is currently capped at $1,450 per week There is a one-week waiting period for PFML benefits that isn't paid unless you're using it for bonding with a new child. Important: You need to officially stop claiming UI benefits before your PFML begins. There's no automatic transition process.
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Gabriel Freeman
•Just adding to this excellent explanation - I had to deal with this exact situation when switching from unemployment to PFML for a surgery last year. When they say there's no automatic transition, they really mean it. The most important thing is to call the ESD unemployment office and specifically tell them you need to stop your claim because you're starting PFML. Don't just stop filing weekly claims without notifying them. If you're having trouble getting through to an agent at ESD (which is extremely common), I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes. There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Having clear documentation of when you stopped UI and started PFML is crucial because they will check this when processing your PFML claim.
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Laura Lopez
PFML and UI use the same base period for calculating wages, so that part is consistent. But when I went from UI to PFML, my benefit was actually higher under PFML because of how they calculate it (the 90%/50% formula someone mentioned above). BUT WATCH OUT!! Make absolutely sure you stop filing weekly UI claims before your PFML start date. I made the mistake of filing one more UI weekly claim that overlapped with my PFML start date, and ended up with an overpayment notice from both agencies! It was a huge headache to resolve. Also, PFML usually takes 2-3 weeks to process your application, so apply early if you can.
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Santiago Diaz
•That's really helpful to know! Did you have any gap between your last UI payment and your first PFML payment? I'm trying to budget and figure out if I'll need to dip into savings.
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Laura Lopez
Yes, there was about a 3 week gap between my last UI payment and first PFML payment. PFML has that one week waiting period that isn't paid (unlike UI which pays from day one now), and then it took about 2 weeks for them to process my claim and make the first payment. Definitely have some savings ready if possible. Also, for your doctor visit - make sure they complete the PFML medical certification completely. My first application was delayed because my doctor didn't fill out one section about the expected duration of treatment.
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Santiago Diaz
•Thanks for the heads up! I'll make sure to have my doctor fill everything out completely and plan for at least 3 weeks with no income. Glad I asked before jumping into this.
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Victoria Brown
anybody know if you can go BACK to ui after pfml ends if ur still not able to work full time but ur doctor says ur ok for light duty?? my pfml runs out next month but employer doesnt have light duty for me
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Debra Bai
•This is actually a good question that relates to the original post. Yes, you can potentially go back to UI after PFML if you're able to work (even limited duty) but your employer doesn't have suitable work available. You'd need to reopen your existing claim if it's still in the same benefit year, or file a new claim if your benefit year has expired. When you apply, make sure to correctly answer the question about being able and available for work - you need to be able to work in some capacity, even if it's limited duty, to qualify for UI. You might need a statement from your doctor about your work limitations.
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Samuel Robinson
I thought PFML paid more!! I got $825/week on PFML but was only getting $680 on unemployment for same base year. The calculations are definitely different even if they use the same time period for wages.
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Millie Long
•That's correct - even though they use the same wage period, the benefit formulas are completely different. PFML is more generous for lower and middle-income workers because of that 90% replacement rate on the first portion of your wages. It can work out to be more money depending on what you were earning.
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Santiago Diaz
Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to apply for PFML this week and make sure to notify ESD when I stop my UI claim. I'll also prepare for a potential 3-week gap between benefits by setting aside some money. I'll have my doctor complete all the paperwork thoroughly to avoid delays. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences!
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KaiEsmeralda
•good luck with ur surgery! make sure u print EVERYTHING and take screenshots of when u submit stuff. the websites are always glitching and its good to have proof
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