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Miguel Hernández

Can you get Washington ESD unemployment for job abandonment - confused about eligibility

I walked off my job last month after my supervisor kept scheduling me for shifts I couldn't work due to my second job. I know job abandonment usually disqualifies you from unemployment but I'm seeing conflicting information online about Washington ESD rules. Has anyone successfully gotten UI benefits after abandoning a job? I'm worried I made a huge mistake and won't qualify for anything.

Job abandonment is typically considered voluntary quit which makes you ineligible for Washington ESD benefits unless you had good cause. The key is whether you can prove you had no other reasonable option. Did you try to communicate with your employer about the scheduling conflict before leaving?

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I mentioned it a few times but they said the schedule was non-negotiable. I should have documented it better.

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Documentation is huge for these cases. Washington ESD will want to see you made efforts to resolve the issue.

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You might still have a chance if you can show good cause for leaving. Washington ESD considers things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or unreasonable schedule changes. The fact that they wouldn't accommodate your second job might not be enough though.

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The scheduling was making it impossible to keep both jobs and I needed both to pay rent. Would that count as good cause?

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It's a gray area. You'd need to show the employer was being unreasonable about scheduling accommodation.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already broke from not having income.

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It's worth it when you consider how much unemployment benefits you could lose if your appeal gets denied due to lack of information.

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Never heard of this but the phone situation with Washington ESD is absolutely terrible. Might be worth checking out.

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job abandonment = no unemployment, period. you quit without notice so you're SOL. should have thought about that before walking out

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That's not entirely accurate. Washington ESD does consider good cause situations even for job abandonment cases.

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yeah right, good luck proving that. they'll find any excuse to deny benefits these days

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The burden of proof is on you to show good cause. You'll need to gather any emails, texts, or witness statements about the scheduling conflicts. Also document any attempts you made to resolve the issue before leaving. The adjudication officer will review all evidence.

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I have some text messages where I asked about changing my availability. Would those help?

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Absolutely. Any documentation showing you tried to work with them first strengthens your case significantly.

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Make sure to submit everything during your initial application. Adding evidence later during appeals is harder.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process for voluntary quit cases can take 4-6 weeks. They'll contact both you and your former employer to get statements. Be prepared with a clear timeline of events and any evidence of good cause.

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6 weeks?? How am I supposed to survive that long without income?

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You can still file weekly claims during adjudication. If approved later, you'll get back pay for those weeks.

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Just make sure you meet all the job search requirements even during adjudication or you'll lose those weeks.

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I'm dealing with something similar but for attendance issues. My Washington ESD claim has been in adjudication for 3 weeks now and I can't get through to anyone to check status. The automated system just says 'in progress' with no timeline.

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. The regular phone lines are impossible but they can get you through to actual agents who can give you real updates.

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I might have to try that. This uncertainty is killing me financially.

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For job abandonment specifically, Washington ESD looks at whether a reasonable person in your situation would have felt compelled to leave. Things like safety concerns, illegal activities, or significant changes to job duties can constitute good cause.

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They did change my schedule without asking and refused to work with me on it. Would that count as significant change?

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Possibly, especially if it affected your ability to maintain other employment or meet family obligations.

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Schedule changes alone usually aren't enough unless they're extreme or violate your original hiring agreement.

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Don't forget that even if you get approved for benefits, there might be a voluntary quit penalty that delays your first payment by several weeks. Washington ESD applies this to most voluntary quit cases even with good cause.

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More delays? This system seems designed to make people give up.

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The penalty varies but it's usually 7-10 weeks of additional waiting. Plan accordingly.

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Make sure you're honest on your initial application about the job abandonment. Trying to hide it or claim you were fired will backfire when they contact your employer. Better to be upfront and argue good cause from the start.

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I was honest on the application. Said I quit due to scheduling conflicts but didn't explain the whole situation.

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You should be able to provide additional details during the adjudication interview. They'll ask for your side of the story.

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The adjudication officer will ask specific questions about why you felt you had no other choice but to leave.

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honestly the whole system is screwed, I've been waiting 2 months for my regular claim to process and can't get answers from anyone at Washington ESD about what's taking so long

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2 months is excessive even for adjudication. Have you tried reaching out through Claimyr? Sometimes you need an actual person to check what's holding things up internally.

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never heard of it but at this point I'll try anything, the regular phone system is completely useless

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Your best strategy is to frame this as constructive discharge rather than job abandonment. If you can show the employer created working conditions that forced you to leave, it's stronger than voluntary quit with good cause.

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How do I prove constructive discharge? The scheduling thing was frustrating but I'm not sure it rises to that level.

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You'd need to show they knew the schedule changes would force you to quit and did it anyway, or that they were deliberately making your job impossible.

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Constructive discharge is hard to prove unless there's clear evidence of intent to force you out.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process will include a fact-finding interview where you can explain your situation in detail. Prepare a clear, factual timeline and stick to the key points about why you had no reasonable alternative.

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When do they usually schedule these interviews? I filed two weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet.

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Usually 3-4 weeks after filing, but it varies based on their workload. You'll get notice by mail or through your online account.

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Whatever you do, don't stop filing your weekly claims even if you think you might be denied. If you eventually win your case, you'll lose any weeks you didn't file for.

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Good point. I've been filing them but it feels pointless when I know the claim is under review.

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Better safe than sorry. Missing weekly claims is one of the biggest mistakes people make during adjudication.

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And make sure you're doing your job searches too. They'll check that even for weeks you didn't get paid.

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I know someone who got approved after job abandonment but it took appealing the initial denial. Washington ESD tends to deny first and make you prove your case on appeal. Don't give up if you get that first rejection letter.

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How long does the appeal process take? I can't handle months of uncertainty.

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Appeals can take 2-3 months but you get backpay if you win. It's worth fighting if you have legitimate good cause.

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just file for benefits at other jobs or under the table work, the system is so broken they'll never catch it anyway. everyone does it

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That's fraud and terrible advice. Washington ESD cross-references wage databases and you'll get caught eventually. Stick to legitimate options.

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whatever, the system screws people over anyway so why not level the playing field

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Because fraud penalties include paying back benefits plus interest and potential criminal charges. Not worth the risk.

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The bottom line is job abandonment makes you ineligible unless you can prove good cause that would compel a reasonable person to quit. Gather your evidence, be honest in interviews, and don't give up if initially denied.

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I'm going to gather my documentation and see what happens with the adjudication process.

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Good luck! The process is frustrating but people do win these cases when they have legitimate reasons for leaving.

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One more thing - if you do get denied and appeal, consider getting help with the appeal hearing. Having someone who understands Washington ESD rules can make a big difference in how you present your case.

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Are there free services that help with unemployment appeals?

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Some legal aid organizations help with unemployment appeals, and there are services like the one mentioned earlier that can at least help you reach Washington ESD agents for information.

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Yeah, being able to actually talk to someone who can explain the process makes a huge difference. The Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier really helped me understand what I needed to do for my appeal.

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