Can my husband claim ESD unemployment for reduced winter construction hours?
My husband is a drywall installer and his hours are already dropping as we head into winter. This week he had no work Monday and only got 3-4 hours Tuesday and Wednesday. We're worried because November through early March is always tough financially for us - last winter he sometimes went 2-3 weeks with barely any work. Could he file for partial unemployment to help cover the reduced hours during winter? If ESD allows this, would he still need to complete those job searches every week? He's not looking to change jobs since construction always picks back up in spring (he's been with the same company for 4 years). Anyone dealt with seasonal construction work and ESD before? Thanks!
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Kennedy Morrison
Yes, your husband can absolutely apply for partial unemployment benefits through ESD! This is exactly what the system is designed for - helping workers through temporary periods of reduced hours. He would file an initial claim, and then for each week where he works less than full-time, he reports those hours and earnings on his weekly claim. ESD will calculate a partial benefit payment based on how much he earned that week compared to his weekly benefit amount. Regarding job searches - unfortunately yes, he would still need to complete 3 job search activities each week to remain eligible, even for partial benefits. However, there's something called "standby status" he might qualify for if his employer can confirm he'll return to full-time work within 4 weeks. Standby would waive the job search requirement.
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Lily Young
•Thank you so much for the quick response! I'm going to have him talk to his boss about the standby status option. But what if his reduced hours last longer than 4 weeks? Winter slowdown usually affects them from November through February at least. Would he need to keep reapplying for standby or would he eventually have to do the job searches?
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Wesley Hallow
i went thru this exact thing last yr with my roofing job. u can 100% get partial but the job search thing is a PAIN. had to apply to places even tho i knew id be back full time in spring. standby status only worked for me once, they denied it after that saying seasonal work doesnt count for extended standby or something. still got my benefits tho!!!
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Lily Young
•Oh that's disappointing about the standby status! Did you just apply to random construction jobs to fulfill the requirements? I'm worried about him having to go to interviews for jobs he doesn't actually want to take since his current employer always brings everyone back in spring.
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Justin Chang
I work with several construction clients who deal with this seasonal pattern. Your husband definitely qualifies for partial unemployment, but there are some important details: 1) For the job search requirements, he MUST complete 3 activities each week unless he gets standby status 2) Standby status is typically limited to 4 weeks, though it can sometimes be extended up to 8 weeks in special circumstances 3) For seasonal construction workers, after standby expires, he'll need to conduct legitimate job searches - ESD does audit these 4) Very important: he should talk to his employer BEFORE filing. Some construction companies have systems in place to help workers through winter slowdowns, and filing could potentially affect his standing 5) When reporting weekly, he must accurately report ALL hours worked and earnings - even small jobs or side work One final note - ESD processing times are currently running about 3-4 weeks for new claims, so he should file as soon as his hours start consistently dropping.
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Lily Young
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize processing could take 3-4 weeks. Should he wait until he has a completely zero-hour week to apply, or can he start the process now while hours are just reduced? And good point about checking with his employer first - I'll have him do that tomorrow.
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Grace Thomas
The job search requirement is absolutely ridiculous for seasonal workers!!! I was in the exact same boat with landscaping work and ESD made me do those stupid job searches even though EVERYONE KNOWS these industries are seasonal. I ended up having to go to interviews for jobs I had no intention of taking just to keep my benefits. The whole system is designed to make you jump through meaningless hoops. And God forbid you miss reporting ONE job search activity - they'll disqualify you so fast your head will spin! The ESD system is broken and doesn't understand how seasonal industries actually work.
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Hunter Brighton
•^^^ this right here. went thru same thing. total waste of everyones time
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Dylan Baskin
Have your husband ask his boss about "partial unemployment plan" or "SharedWork" - some construction companies participate in these ESD programs specifically for winter slowdowns. My husband's commercial painting company does this. Basically the employer pre-arranges with ESD so employees can get partial benefits during slow periods without all the normal hassle. Worth asking about!
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Lily Young
•I've never heard of SharedWork - that sounds ideal! I'll definitely have him ask his boss about this option. Do you know if it still involves a lot of paperwork every week?
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Lauren Wood
I had a terrible time reaching ESD when I had questions about my seasonal work situation last year. Spent DAYS trying to get through on the phone. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an ESD agent in about 25 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Worth it to actually get answers specific to your situation instead of guessing. The agent explained exactly how to handle my seasonal construction work and which job search activities would count if I couldn't get standby.
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Wesley Hallow
•yo that claimyr thing actually works? might try it cuz im about to go thru this again and have questions about my benefit amount from last time
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Kennedy Morrison
Regarding your question about when to apply - he should apply as soon as his hours are consistently reduced, not wait for a zero-hour week. The system is designed to supplement partial work. For job search activities, if he does end up having to do them, remember that "activities" don't just mean job applications. They can include: - Attending WorkSource workshops (some can be done online) - Informational interviews with companies (even if not actively hiring) - Updating his resume and posting it on job boards - Industry networking events These alternatives can fulfill requirements without forcing him to apply to jobs he won't take.
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Lily Young
•That's brilliant! I didn't realize the WorkSource workshops could count. That seems much more practical than sending out applications for jobs he won't take. I'll look into what online workshops are available.
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Justin Chang
One more important detail - if your husband does file for partial unemployment, make sure he understands how earnings reporting works. ESD will deduct a portion of his earnings from his weekly benefit amount using this formula: - 75% of any earnings exceeding $5 and up to 1/4 of his weekly benefit amount - 100% of any earnings exceeding 1/4 of his weekly benefit amount So if his weekly benefit amount is $600 (just an example), and he earns $200 in a week: - First $5 isn't counted - 75% of earnings between $5 and $150 (which is 1/4 of $600) = 75% of $145 = $108.75 - 100% of earnings above $150 = $50 Total deduction: $158.75, making his partial benefit $441.25 for that week. Many construction workers get confused by this calculation and end up with overpayment notices later.
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Lily Young
•Thank you for explaining this! The math is more complicated than I expected. I'm going to write this down so we can calculate it each week before filing the weekly claim. Would hate to end up with an overpayment situation.
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Hunter Brighton
make sure he documents EVERYTHING. take screenshots of all confirmations when filing claims. ESD "lost" half my claims last winter and tried to say I never filed them. total nightmare getting it fixed
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Lily Young
•That sounds awful! Thanks for the warning - I'll make sure he takes screenshots of everything.
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