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Malik Johnson

Can child support take Washington ESD unemployment benefits directly from my claim?

I just got approved for unemployment after being laid off from my construction job last month. My ex keeps threatening that child support enforcement is going to intercept my UI payments before I even get them. Is this actually possible? I'm already barely going to make ends meet on $487 a week and if they start taking money directly from Washington ESD I don't know how I'll pay rent. Does anyone know if child support can garnish unemployment benefits in Washington state?

Yes, unfortunately child support enforcement can intercept unemployment benefits in Washington. It's called an income withholding order and Washington ESD has to comply with it. The amount they can take depends on your support order and how much you owe in arrears.

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Damn, that's what I was afraid of. Do you know how much they can take? Like is there a maximum percentage?

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I think it's up to 50% of your disposable income for current support, and up to 65% if you're behind on payments. But unemployment might have different rules.

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This happened to my brother last year when he was on UI. Child support took like 40% of his weekly benefit amount. He tried calling Washington ESD but they said once they get the withholding order there's nothing they can do on their end.

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Did your brother ever get it reduced or anything? 40% would leave me with like $290 a week which is impossible to live on.

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He had to go through child support enforcement to try to modify it. Took forever though, like 3 months while he was struggling.

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I've been dealing with this exact situation for 6 months. The key is to contact Division of Child Support (DCS) immediately, not Washington ESD. You might be able to get a hardship modification if you can prove the garnishment leaves you below subsistence level. Also document everything - your rent, utilities, food costs, etc.

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Thank you, this is really helpful. Do you know what number to call for DCS? And did you have any luck with the hardship modification?

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Wait, Claimyr works for child support offices too? I thought it was just for unemployment claims.

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ugh this is so messed up. how are people supposed to survive when they take your unemployment money for child support? like i get that kids need support but if the parent can't even pay rent then what good does it do anybody??

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The system is definitely not perfect. The idea is that child support is supposed to be the first priority, but you're right that it can create impossible situations.

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That's why there are hardship provisions though. If you literally can't afford basic living expenses they're supposed to adjust it.

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I work in family law and see this all the time. Washington state can absolutely garnish unemployment benefits for child support. The garnishment happens automatically once DCS sends the income withholding order to Washington ESD. However, you have rights - you can request a modification hearing if the current order creates undue hardship.

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How long does a modification hearing usually take? And do I need a lawyer for it?

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Usually 30-60 days to get a hearing scheduled. You don't need a lawyer but it helps. Bring documentation of all your expenses and proof of your unemployment benefits amount.

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This is good advice. I represented myself in my modification hearing and got my garnishment reduced from 50% to 25% by showing I literally couldn't afford groceries.

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Check if you already have a garnishment order in place. Sometimes people don't even realize child support enforcement has an active withholding order until they start receiving a new income source like UI benefits. Log into your Washington State Support Registry account to see your current status.

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I don't think I have an account set up. Is that something I should have gotten automatically when my support order was established?

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Not automatically, you have to create it yourself at www.supportregistry.wa.gov. It shows your payment history, current balance, and any active enforcement actions.

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My unemployment got garnished for child support and I had no idea it was coming. One week I got my full $423 and the next week only got $211. Scared the hell out of me until I figured out what happened. Washington ESD doesn't give you any advance notice when they start withholding.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Did you ever get it sorted out or are you still getting garnished?

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Still getting garnished but I got it reduced. Had to prove I was spending more than 80% of my income on rent and utilities alone.

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The federal Consumer Credit Protection Act limits garnishment to 50% of disposable earnings for child support (65% if you're 12+ weeks behind). But states can have their own rules that are more restrictive. Washington follows the federal guidelines from what I understand.

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That's correct, but 'disposable earnings' has a specific definition that might be different for unemployment benefits vs regular wages.

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I think for unemployment it's calculated differently because UI benefits are considered temporary income replacement, not regular wages.

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I'm going through this right now too. Been trying to reach someone at Division of Child Support for two weeks to discuss a payment plan instead of garnishment. Their phone system is absolutely terrible - keeps hanging up on me after 45 minutes on hold.

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Try using Claimyr - that's how I finally got through to DCS. They basically call for you and get you connected to an actual person. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Is there a cost for that service? I'm already tight on money with the unemployment situation.

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There is a fee but honestly it was worth it to actually talk to someone instead of wasting entire days trying to get through on my own.

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Don't panic yet - sometimes there's a delay between when the garnishment order is issued and when it actually starts. I got scared when I heard child support was going after my UI but it took like 6 weeks before anything actually got deducted.

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That's somewhat reassuring. Maybe I have time to figure out a modification or payment arrangement before it kicks in.

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Use that time wisely though. Start gathering your financial documents now and contact DCS proactively rather than waiting for the garnishment to start.

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Just want to point out that even with garnishment, you should still be eligible for other assistance programs. SNAP, housing assistance, etc. don't count child support garnishment against you when calculating your available income for benefits.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about applying for food stamps. Every little bit helps when you're trying to stretch unemployment benefits.

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DSHS has online applications now too which makes it easier. Just make sure you report your gross UI amount, not what you get after garnishment.

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I hate to be that person but... maybe this is motivation to find work faster? I know the job market sucks but child support obligations don't go away just because you're unemployed. The longer you're out of work, the more you'll owe in arrears.

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Trust me, I'm looking for work every day. It's not like I chose to get laid off. Sometimes these things happen and people need help figuring out the system.

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That's kind of a harsh response. OP is dealing with a legitimate question about how garnishment works. We've all been in tough spots.

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You're right, sorry. I didn't mean to sound judgmental. Just know from experience that arrears add up fast when you're not working.

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Whatever you do, don't ignore this situation. Child support garnishment can also affect your tax refunds, bank accounts, and even professional licenses in extreme cases. Better to be proactive and work with DCS on a solution.

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Wow, I had no idea it could affect professional licenses. I have a contractor's license I need for work. Definitely going to call DCS first thing Monday.

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Yes, license suspension is one of their enforcement tools. Usually a last resort but it can happen if arrears get really high.

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Quick tip - when you do talk to DCS, ask specifically about their 'deviation' process. Sometimes they can reduce the garnishment percentage if you can show it would cause substantial hardship. Had a friend get his reduced from 50% to 30% this way.

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That's exactly the kind of specific advice I was hoping for. Do you know what kind of documentation they needed for the deviation?

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Bank statements, rent receipts, utility bills, grocery receipts - basically anything showing your actual cost of living. The more detailed the better.

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One more thing to consider - if you have other debts that are also garnishing your wages/benefits, there are federal limits on total garnishment. Child support gets priority but there are still maximum percentages that can be taken overall.

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This is important. I had both child support and a student loan garnishment and they had to adjust the amounts so it didn't exceed the federal limits.

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Thankfully I don't have any other garnishments right now. Just trying to figure out how to survive on whatever's left after child support.

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For what it's worth, I used to work at Washington ESD and we processed these garnishment orders every day. The caseworkers there understand it's a difficult situation but their hands are tied once they receive the court order. Your best bet really is working directly with Division of Child Support.

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Thanks for the inside perspective. I won't waste time trying to fight it through Washington ESD then - sounds like DCS is where I need to focus my efforts.

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That's the right approach. Washington ESD is just following the court order, they can't make exceptions even if they wanted to.

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Update us on how it goes OP. I'm in a similar situation and might need to deal with this myself soon. Good luck with getting through to DCS and hopefully you can work out something reasonable.

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Will do. Thanks everyone for all the advice and information. At least now I know what I'm dealing with and have a plan of action.

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Seriously consider the Claimyr service if you have trouble getting through to DCS. It saved me weeks of frustration trying to reach them on my own.

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