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Kennedy Morrison

Can I sue Washington ESD for negligence - they lost my paperwork twice

This is getting ridiculous. Washington ESD has now lost my job separation paperwork TWICE in the past month. First time they said it was never received, so I resubmitted everything through their online portal with delivery confirmation. Now they're claiming they can't find that either and my claim has been sitting in adjudication for 6 weeks. I've missed two months of rent because of their incompetence. Can I actually sue Washington ESD for negligence? Has anyone successfully taken legal action against them for screwing up claims this badly? I have documentation of everything I submitted and when.

I feel your pain but suing state agencies is extremely difficult. Washington ESD has governmental immunity for most stuff like this. You'd need to prove they acted with malicious intent, not just incompetence.

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So basically they can lose my paperwork over and over and there's no consequences? This system is broken.

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Not exactly - you can file complaints with the state ombudsman office. They investigate government agency failures.

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Before going the legal route, have you tried escalating within Washington ESD? There's an appeals process and you can request supervisory review of your case. Document everything - dates, times, who you spoke with.

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I've tried calling for weeks but can never get through to anyone who can actually help. Just the automated system.

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This is exactly why I used Claimyr when I had problems reaching Washington ESD. They actually got me connected to a real person who could look at my case. Check out claimyr.com - there's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of that service. Is it legit or just another scam?

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You might have grounds for a tort claim if you can prove the negligence caused you specific financial damages. But you'd need to exhaust all administrative remedies first - appeals, ombudsman complaints, etc.

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What do you mean by administrative remedies? I just want someone to process my damn claim.

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It means you have to go through all the official complaint processes before you can sue. File an appeal, contact the ombudsman, request a supervisor review - basically prove you tried everything else first.

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I went through something similar last year. Washington ESD 'lost' my work search logs three times. Turns out their document upload system was broken and wasn't actually saving files properly. Maybe that's what happened to yours?

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How did you find out their system was broken? Did they admit it?

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Only after I got connected to someone in their IT department through a supervisor. Regular customer service had no clue.

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This is why services like Claimyr are so useful - they know which departments to reach and can get you to the right people instead of just basic customer service.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DENY CLAIMS!!! They 'lose' paperwork on purpose to delay payments and hope people give up. I've been fighting them for 3 months over a simple address change.

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While I understand the frustration, claiming intentional misconduct would require actual proof. Hanlon's razor applies here - never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

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After dealing with them for months you start to wonder if it really is just incompetence or if they're trying to save money by making the process impossible.

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Have you tried contacting your state representative? Sometimes political pressure can get things moving faster than legal threats.

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I didn't think of that. Would they actually help with individual unemployment cases?

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Absolutely. Constituent services is a big part of what they do. They have direct lines to agency supervisors.

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This is good advice. State reps often have more pull with Washington ESD than individual claimants do.

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I'm a paralegal and I've seen cases like this. Sovereign immunity makes suing Washington ESD very difficult unless there's clear constitutional violations or discrimination. Your best bet is the administrative route.

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So basically they can screw up as much as they want and there's no real accountability?

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There is accountability through the administrative process - appeals, ombudsman, legislative oversight. It's just not the same as private sector lawsuits.

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same thing happened to my neighbor, they said they never got her medical documentation but she had proof of delivery. took 4 months to sort out

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Four months?? I can't wait that long, I'm already behind on everything.

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yeah it was really bad, she almost lost her apartment. finally got resolved when she got help from some service that calls for you

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Probably Claimyr - that's the one I used. They really know how to navigate Washington ESD's phone system and get to the right people quickly.

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Document everything with timestamps and screenshots. Even if you can't sue now, having a paper trail helps with appeals and ombudsman complaints. Also file a complaint with the state auditor.

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I have screenshots of both uploads and the delivery confirmations. Should I also document my attempts to call?

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Yes! Keep a log of every call attempt, including time and date. Also screenshot any error messages or system issues you encounter.

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Look into filing a complaint under the Washington Administrative Procedure Act. Agencies are required to follow their own rules and procedures.

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Never heard of that. How does it work?

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It's basically a law that requires state agencies to follow consistent procedures and gives you recourse when they don't. You'd need to research their published procedures and show how they violated them.

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I hate to say it but this is pretty normal for Washington ESD. Their document management system has been problematic for years. The key is persistence and escalation.

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Normal doesn't make it acceptable. People lose their homes because of this incompetence.

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Completely agree it's unacceptable. I'm just saying don't expect it to be resolved quickly through normal channels.

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Try filing a public records request for all documents related to your claim. Sometimes that forces them to actually look for your paperwork and can reveal what happened.

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That's actually a really smart idea. How do I file one of those?

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Washington has an online portal for public records requests. Just be specific about what documents you want and include your claim number.

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Similar situation here, took 8 weeks to resolve after Washington ESD claimed they never received my employer separation notice. Turned out it was sitting in a different queue the whole time.

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How did you finally get it resolved? I'm willing to try anything at this point.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. They got me connected to a supervisor who actually looked into my case instead of just giving me the runaround.

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Seems like everyone who mentions that service had success with it. Might be worth trying.

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The reality is that Washington ESD is understaffed and their systems are outdated. Suing won't fix the underlying problems, but it might get your individual case prioritized.

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I don't care about fixing the whole system, I just need MY claim processed so I can pay rent.

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That's fair, but legal action takes months or years. Faster to work within their system, even if it's frustrating.

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Whatever you do, don't stop filing your weekly claims even if your base claim is messed up. If you stop filing weeklies you'll lose eligibility for back payments.

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Good point, I've been keeping up with those. At least that part of their system seems to work.

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Yeah the weekly filing system is more reliable than their document processing unfortunately.

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I work in state government (different department) and can tell you that complaints to the governor's office actually do get attention. They forward them to agency directors who have to respond.

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Really? I thought those would just get ignored. How do I file a complaint with the governor's office?

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There's a form on the governor's website under constituent services. They take complaints about state agencies seriously.

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Check if Washington has a unemployment insurance ombudsman specifically. Some states have dedicated positions for UI complaints separate from the general ombudsman.

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I'll look into that. Would be nice if there was someone whose actual job is dealing with these problems.

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Even if they don't have a UI-specific ombudsman, the state ombudsman office handles all agency complaints.

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Bottom line - document everything, exhaust administrative remedies, and consider legal action as a last resort. But don't let them string you along indefinitely.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'll try the escalation routes first before thinking about lawyers.

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Good plan. And seriously consider trying Claimyr to actually get through to someone who can help. Sometimes the right contact makes all the difference.

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I'm convinced at this point. Going to check out that service today.

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