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Amelia Cartwright

Can I reapply for unemployment when benefits run out - Washington ESD process?

My regular unemployment benefits are about to end next month and I'm still looking for work. Can I reapply for unemployment when it runs out or do I need to wait? I've been on UI for about 6 months now and I'm not sure what happens next. Do I file a new claim or is there some kind of extension? Really stressed about this because I haven't found anything yet despite applying everywhere.

You can't just reapply immediately when your benefit year ends. You have to wait until you have qualifying wages from work after your original claim started. If you haven't worked during your benefit year, you won't have new qualifying wages to establish a new claim.

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So what happens if I haven't worked at all during this time? Do I just lose all benefits?

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Unfortunately yes, if you don't have new qualifying wages you won't be eligible for a new regular UI claim. You'd need to look into other assistance programs.

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I was in this exact situation last year. When my benefits ran out I tried calling Washington ESD for weeks to understand my options but could never get through. The phone system is absolutely terrible.

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How did you finally get answers? I'm dreading having to call them.

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The key thing to understand is the difference between benefit year end and benefit exhaustion. Your benefit year is 52 weeks from when you first filed. Even if you still have money left in your claim, you can't collect after the benefit year ends unless you establish a new valid claim.

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Wait I'm confused. What if you have weeks left but your year ends? Do you lose those weeks?

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Yes, any remaining balance becomes unavailable once your benefit year expires. That's why it's important to understand both your weekly benefit amount and your benefit year end date.

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This is so confusing. I wish Washington ESD explained this stuff better when you first apply.

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Been there done that. The system is designed to make you give up honestly. Spent HOURS on hold just to be told I needed to look for work harder. Like I wasn't already doing that!

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I feel you. The whole job search requirement thing is ridiculous when there aren't even jobs available in some areas.

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Exactly! And they want you to log 3 job search activities per week but half the jobs posted are fake or already filled.

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To reapply you need qualifying wages from work performed after your benefit year began. In Washington that means you need to have earned at least $1,000 in covered employment during your benefit year. If you worked even part-time and reported it properly, you might qualify.

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I did some gig work but I'm not sure if that counts as covered employment. How do I find out?

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Gig work usually doesn't count unless the company treated you as an employee and paid unemployment taxes. You'd need to check with Washington ESD about your specific situation.

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Also worth mentioning - even if you do qualify for a new claim, your weekly benefit amount will be based on wages from your most recent base period. If you only worked sporadically, your new weekly amount could be much lower than what you're getting now.

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Great, so even if I do qualify it might be for way less money. This system is awful.

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Yeah the base period calculation is confusing. They look at like the first 4 of the last 5 quarters or something weird like that.

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Seriously though, if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your specific situation, don't waste time trying to call. I used that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier and they got me connected in like 10 minutes. So much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Is that service legit? Sounds too good to be true tbh.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked. They just help bypass the phone queue somehow. Way better than the alternative.

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Same boat here. My benefits end in March and I've been looking everywhere. The job market is still pretty rough depending on your field.

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What field are you in? I'm in retail/customer service and there's just nothing decent paying.

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Office admin stuff mostly. Lots of postings but they all want 5+ years experience for entry level positions. It's insane.

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One more thing - if your benefit year is ending and you haven't found work, make sure you're also looking into other assistance programs like SNAP, housing assistance, etc. Washington has several programs that can help bridge the gap.

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Good point. Do you know if there's a waiting period between UI ending and being able to apply for other programs?

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Usually no waiting period for things like SNAP. You should apply as soon as you know your UI is ending to avoid any gaps in assistance.

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DSHS website has info on all the programs available. Worth checking out even if you're not sure you qualify.

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The whole thing is just set up to make people desperate enough to take any crappy job. I swear they make it complicated on purpose.

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Probably true. Can't have people getting too comfortable on benefits I guess.

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I mean, the system is supposed to be temporary assistance while you find work, not long-term support.

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Sure but when decent jobs don't exist it becomes a catch-22. Can't take a job that pays less than rent.

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Here's what I'd recommend - contact Washington ESD before your benefits end to discuss your options. They can tell you definitively whether you have qualifying wages for a new claim and what your weekly benefit amount would be.

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That's probably smart. Better to know ahead of time than scramble at the last minute.

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Good luck getting through on the phone though. I've been trying for weeks about a different issue.

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That's why I keep recommending Claimyr - it's the only way I could actually reach a human there. Check out their demo video to see how it works.

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Also make sure you keep filing your weekly claims until your benefit year actually ends, even if you know you won't qualify for a new claim. Don't want to accidentally disqualify yourself.

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Wait, you have to keep filing even when you know benefits are ending?

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Yeah until your benefit year officially ends or you find work. Otherwise they might think you stopped looking for work.

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This happened to my sister last year. She ended up having to move back in with family because there was no extension available. Really tough situation.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Housing costs are insane right now.

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Yeah it's rough. She eventually found something but it took like 8 months after her benefits ended.

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Bottom line - if you haven't worked during your benefit year, you cannot establish a new UI claim. Your only option would be to find work (even part-time) to build up new qualifying wages, then potentially file a new claim later.

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So catch-22 again. Need money to survive while looking for work, but need work to get money. Makes sense...

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Pretty much. The unemployment system assumes you'll find work within the benefit year.

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Don't forget about WorkSource too. They have job search assistance and sometimes training programs that can help. Might be worth checking out their resources.

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I registered with WorkSource but haven't used their services much. Maybe I should look into the training programs.

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Yeah they have some decent programs. And I think some training programs might extend your benefits but I'm not 100% sure on that.

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Been following this thread. Really feel for everyone going through this. The uncertainty is the worst part.

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Thanks. It's nice to know other people understand the stress.

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Hang in there. Something will come through eventually.

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One question - what if you move to a different state before your benefits end? Can you transfer your claim?

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You can continue collecting Washington ESD benefits if you move, but you have to follow the other state's job search requirements and report to them.

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That sounds complicated. Probably better to stay put until benefits end.

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Just want to add - keep all your documentation from your current claim. If you do end up working and qualifying for a new claim later, having that paperwork will make the process smoother.

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Good tip. I'll make sure to save everything.

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Yeah, dealing with Washington ESD is always easier when you have all your paperwork organized.

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This whole thread is depressing but helpful. At least now I know what to expect when my benefits run out next month too.

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Sorry we're all in the same boat. Hope things work out for you.

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Thanks, same to you. We'll figure it out somehow.

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Final thought - if anyone needs to actually speak with Washington ESD about their specific situation, seriously consider using Claimyr. I know I keep mentioning it but it's the only thing that worked for me when I needed real answers. Way better than the phone runaround.

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I'll definitely look into it if I can't figure out my situation. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Might be worth trying. Can't be worse than spending all day on hold.

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I'm in a similar situation and just want to share what I learned from calling Washington ESD last week. If you haven't worked at all during your benefit year, you won't qualify for a new regular UI claim. However, they told me to check if I might be eligible for any federal extension programs that could still be available. Also, make sure you apply for other assistance programs like SNAP and housing help BEFORE your UI ends - don't wait until after. The application process can take weeks and you don't want a gap in support. Hang in there, this is such a stressful time but you're not alone in dealing with this.

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