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Freya Christensen

Can I get short term disability and Washington ESD unemployment at the same time?

I'm dealing with a complicated situation and hoping someone can help me understand the rules. I was working part-time at a retail job when I developed some serious health issues that require surgery and recovery time. My doctor says I'll be off work for at least 8-12 weeks. I'm wondering if I can collect both short-term disability benefits through my employer's insurance and also file for unemployment with Washington ESD? I know I need to be able and available for work to get UI benefits, but I'm not sure how that works when you're temporarily disabled. Has anyone been in this situation before?

Omar Farouk

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Unfortunately, you generally can't collect both at the same time. For Washington ESD unemployment benefits, you have to certify that you're able and available for work each week. If you're receiving short-term disability, that usually means you're unable to work due to medical reasons, which would disqualify you from UI benefits.

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That's what I was afraid of. So I basically have to choose between the two? The disability benefit is less money but at least it's something.

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Chloe Davis

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Yeah that's the catch-22 with these programs. You can't be disabled AND available for work at the same time according to the rules.

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AstroAlpha

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There might be some exceptions depending on your specific situation. If your disability is temporary and you expect to return to the same job, you might qualify for standby status with Washington ESD instead of regular UI. But if you're truly unable to work, short-term disability is probably your better option right now.

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What exactly is standby status? I haven't heard of that before.

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AstroAlpha

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Standby is when you have a definite return-to-work date with your employer. You don't have to do job searches but you still have to be physically able to work. If you're on medical leave, you probably wouldn't qualify.

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Diego Chavez

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Diego Chavez

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Sean O'Brien

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Wait, are we talking about state disability insurance or private short-term disability through your employer? Washington state doesn't have its own disability insurance program like California or New York do. If it's through your employer's insurance, that definitely won't conflict with unemployment eligibility rules the same way state programs would.

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It's through my employer's insurance plan. Does that change things?

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Sean O'Brien

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It might, but you'd still need to be able and available for work to get UI benefits. The source of the disability payment isn't as important as whether you can actually work.

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Omar Farouk

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Good point about the distinction. But the fundamental issue remains - if you're medically unable to work, you can't claim you're available for work on your weekly claims.

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Zara Shah

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this is so frustrating!! i had the same question last year and nobody could give me a straight answer. ended up just taking the disability and not filing for unemployment at all because i was scared of getting in trouble for fraud or something

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That's exactly what I'm worried about too. I don't want to accidentally commit fraud by filing for benefits I'm not eligible for.

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AstroAlpha

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You're right to be cautious. It's better to be conservative and only apply for benefits you clearly qualify for.

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Chloe Davis

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The timing might matter too. Like if you file for unemployment first and then become disabled, vs. being disabled first and then trying to file for UI. But honestly this is complicated enough that you should probably talk to someone at Washington ESD directly.

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Yeah I think I need to call them but their phone lines are always so busy.

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Diego Chavez

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - it really does help get through faster when you need to talk to an actual person at ESD.

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Luca Bianchi

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I work in HR and deal with these situations sometimes. Generally speaking, if you're receiving disability benefits (whether state or private), you're acknowledging that you're unable to perform your job duties due to medical reasons. This is fundamentally incompatible with unemployment benefits which require you to be ready, willing, and able to work immediately.

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That makes sense when you put it that way. So I should probably just focus on the disability claim and forget about unemployment for now.

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What if someone could do light duty work but not their regular job? Would that change anything?

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Luca Bianchi

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That's a gray area. You'd need to be cleared by your doctor to work AND be actively seeking appropriate work to qualify for UI. It's definitely a case-by-case situation.

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Nia Harris

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Check if your short-term disability has any restrictions about other income. Some policies will reduce benefits if you receive unemployment or other wage replacement benefits.

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Good point, I'll need to read through my policy documents more carefully.

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My sister went through this exact thing! She ended up having to choose between disability and unemployment. The disability paid better in her case since it was like 60% of her regular wages vs unemployment which was way less. But your situation might be different depending on what you were earning.

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Yeah I need to compare the actual dollar amounts. My part-time wages weren't that high to begin with so unemployment might not be much anyway.

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Aisha Ali

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Don't forget unemployment is taxable income but some disability benefits aren't, so factor that in too.

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Ethan Moore

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Has anyone ever been approved for both simultaneously? I'm curious if there are any edge cases where it's actually allowed.

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Omar Farouk

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I've never heard of that happening in Washington. The eligibility requirements are pretty clear that they conflict with each other.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Maybe in very specific circumstances but I doubt it would be worth the risk of having to pay benefits back if they determine you weren't eligible.

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StarSurfer

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Whatever you decide, make sure you document everything! Keep records of your medical appointments, disability claim paperwork, any communication with Washington ESD, etc. You want a clear paper trail in case there are any questions later.

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That's really good advice. I'll start organizing all my paperwork now.

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Carmen Reyes

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The whole system is set up to make things as difficult as possible for people who are already dealing with health problems and lost income. It's ridiculous that you have to choose between benefits when you're in a vulnerable situation.

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Andre Moreau

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I totally agree. You'd think there would be better coordination between these different programs.

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It's not just Washington either - most states have the same conflicts between disability and unemployment benefits.

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One more thing to consider - if you do go with disability now, you might be able to file for unemployment later once you're cleared to return to work but can't get your job back. Just something to keep in mind.

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That's a good point. My employer said they'd hold my position but you never know what might happen in 8-12 weeks.

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Mei Chen

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Exactly, and if they don't have work for you when you're ready to return, that would be a clear case for unemployment benefits at that point.

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CosmicCadet

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I used Claimyr last month when I had questions about my claim and it was definitely worth it. Saved me hours of trying to call Washington ESD directly. The agents were able to explain exactly what my options were for my specific situation.

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I think I'm going to give that a try. I really need to talk to someone who can look at my specific case rather than just guessing.

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Liam O'Connor

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Make sure you understand the elimination period for your disability benefits too. Some policies don't start paying until you've been out of work for a certain number of days.

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Mine has a 7-day waiting period, so that's something to factor in for sure.

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