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Brandon Parker

Can I apply for disability after unemployment runs out in Washington?

My unemployment benefits are about to run out in a few weeks and I'm wondering if I can transition to disability. I've been dealing with chronic back pain that's gotten worse over the past year, and honestly it's been really hard to keep up with the job search requirements. I'm 52 and worked in construction for 20 years before getting laid off. Has anyone successfully moved from Washington ESD unemployment to disability benefits? Do I need to stop filing my weekly claims first or can I apply while still receiving UI?

You can definitely apply for Social Security disability while receiving unemployment, but there are some things to consider. The main issue is that unemployment requires you to be able and available for work, while disability means you can't work. SSA might question this contradiction, but many people successfully transition between the two programs.

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That's exactly what I was worried about - the contradiction between being available for work and being disabled. How do they handle that?

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They look at when your condition became disabling versus when you were receiving unemployment. If your condition worsened after you started receiving UI, that can explain the timeline.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Applied for SSDI while still on unemployment and it worked out fine. The key is being honest about your timeline and having good medical documentation. Start gathering your medical records now because the disability application process takes forever.

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How long did your disability application take? I'm worried about the gap between when unemployment ends and when disability might start.

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Mine took about 8 months total, but I got approved on the first try. Most people get denied first and have to appeal, which can take over a year. That's why starting early is so important.

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Just went through this process myself. You don't have to stop filing unemployment claims to apply for disability, but you should be prepared to explain the situation if asked. I'd suggest reaching out to Washington ESD directly to discuss your specific situation - they can provide guidance on how this affects your claim status.

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Good idea about contacting Washington ESD. Have you had any luck getting through to them lately? I've been trying to call for weeks about other issues.

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Actually, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. They have a system that calls for you and gets you connected. Check out claimyr.com - there's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made my life so much easier.

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be careful about this!! my cousin applied for disability while on unemployment and they made her pay back some of her UI benefits because they said she wasn't really available for work. definitely talk to a lawyer first

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Oh no, that's scary! Do you know what specifically caused them to make her pay it back?

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This can happen if there's evidence you weren't actually able to work during the time you were receiving unemployment. That's why documentation and timeline are so important.

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From what I understand, Social Security disability and unemployment serve different purposes. Unemployment is temporary support while you look for work, disability is for when you can't work at all. The timing of when your condition became disabling is crucial for both programs.

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That makes sense. My back problems started before I got laid off, but they've definitely gotten worse since then. Would that complicate things?

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It might actually help your case - shows a progression of the condition. Just make sure you have medical records documenting the worsening over time.

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I'm in a similar boat - my unemployment runs out next month and I've been considering disability too. The job search requirements are getting harder to meet with my health issues. Anyone know if there are other programs that might bridge the gap?

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Depending on your situation, you might qualify for temporary assistance programs through DSHS while waiting for disability determination. Also look into food assistance and medical coverage.

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Thanks, I'll look into DSHS programs. The medical coverage is definitely a concern since I need ongoing treatment.

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One more thing - if you do apply for disability, don't stop doing your job search activities for unemployment until you're approved. The disability process can take a really long time and you don't want to lose your UI benefits while waiting.

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Good point. I guess I need to keep looking for work I can actually do with my limitations. Construction is definitely out now.

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Exactly. Look for office jobs or something that doesn't require heavy lifting. Document your job search efforts but also be realistic about what you can handle.

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whatever you do dont let them know about the disability thing when you file your weekly claims. they'll cut you off immediately and then you're stuck with nothing while waiting for disability approval

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This is actually bad advice. Being dishonest on your weekly claims can lead to fraud charges and having to pay back all your benefits. It's better to be upfront and work within the system.

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easy for you to say when you're not facing months with no income. the system is broken anyway

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Update: I contacted Washington ESD using that Claimyr service someone mentioned and was able to speak with an agent about my situation. They said I can continue filing weekly claims while applying for disability as long as I'm still able to work in some capacity and actively looking for suitable work. The agent recommended documenting any work limitations when doing job searches.

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That's great news! See how much easier it is when you can actually talk to someone who knows the rules? Claimyr really does work.

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Good advice from the agent. Make sure you keep detailed records of your job search and any accommodations you need. That documentation could be helpful for both programs.

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For anyone else in this situation, here are the key things to remember: 1) You can apply for both programs simultaneously, 2) Be honest about your timeline and limitations, 3) Keep detailed medical records, 4) Don't stop your job search until you're approved for disability, 5) Consider getting legal help if you're denied.

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This is really helpful. Should I get a disability lawyer right away or wait to see if I'm approved first?

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Many disability lawyers work on contingency, so it doesn't hurt to consult with one early. They can help you avoid mistakes that might hurt your case.

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been on disability for 3 years now after my unemployment ran out. best decision i ever made. dont let anyone tell you its giving up - if you cant work you cant work. took me 14 months to get approved but the back pay was worth it

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14 months is a long time to wait! How did you survive financially during that period?

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had to move in with family and got help from local food banks. it was rough but better than trying to work when i literally couldnt

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Important note: if you're approved for disability, they'll look at your work activity during the application period. Make sure any job search activities align with your claimed limitations. This is where having clear documentation becomes crucial.

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So I should only apply for jobs I could realistically do with my back problems? That definitely limits my options.

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Exactly. Apply for sedentary or light-duty positions that match your limitations. This shows you're being realistic about your abilities while still meeting unemployment requirements.

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My sister tried this and got denied for disability because they said if she was looking for work for unemployment she must be able to work. Had to appeal and it took 2 years total. Make sure you have really good medical evidence.

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That's my biggest fear. What kind of medical evidence is most important?

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Objective medical evidence like MRIs, X-rays, lab results, and detailed physician notes documenting your limitations and how they affect your ability to work.

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The key is showing that your condition has worsened over time. If you can document that you were able to work when you first filed for unemployment but your condition deteriorated, that helps explain the timeline issue.

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That's exactly my situation - I could work construction when I was laid off but my back has gotten much worse since then.

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Perfect. Make sure your doctors document the progression of your condition and how it's affecting your ability to work. That timeline will be crucial for both programs.

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just remember that disability pays way less than unemployment. my mom gets like $1200 a month on disability vs the $600 a week she was getting on unemployment. better than nothing but still hard to live on

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Yeah, I know the payments are lower. But if I can't work anyway, at least it's something steady rather than temporary.

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The stability is worth it. Plus you get Medicare after 2 years on disability, which helps with medical costs.

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One thing nobody mentioned - you might want to look into vocational rehabilitation services too. They can help you transition to work you can actually do with your limitations, which might be better than going straight to disability.

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That's interesting. Is that through Washington ESD or a different agency?

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It's through the Division of Vocational Rehabilitation (DVR). They help people with disabilities find suitable work. Might be worth exploring before committing to full disability.

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Final thought - whatever you decide, start the process now. Both disability applications and vocational rehabilitation assessments take time. You don't want to be stuck with no income when your unemployment runs out. And seriously, use Claimyr if you need to talk to Washington ESD about any of this - it's so much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start the disability application process while continuing my unemployment claims and job search. At least now I have a plan.

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Good luck! Remember to keep detailed records of everything - medical appointments, job applications, conversations with agencies. It'll all be helpful down the road.

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Been following this thread and wanted to add - don't forget about the work incentives available through Social Security if you do get approved for disability. You can sometimes work part-time and still keep your benefits.

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Really? I thought disability meant you couldn't work at all.

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Nope, there are several work incentive programs that let you try working while keeping your benefits. Something to ask about if you get approved.

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hate to be negative but this whole system is such a mess. you cant work so you apply for disability but they make you prove you cant work by jumping through hoops that require you to be healthy enough to jump through hoops. makes no sense

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I know, it's frustrating. But I have to try something - can't just give up.

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The system definitely has flaws, but many people do successfully navigate it. Having good representation and documentation makes a big difference.

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Just want to echo what others said about Claimyr - I used it last month to get through to Washington ESD about a different issue and it actually worked. Saved me so much time and frustration. Worth checking out if you need to talk to them about transitioning between programs.

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Yeah, I used it already and it was great. Finally got to talk to someone who could give me real answers instead of just guessing.

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That's the beauty of actually getting through to an agent - they can give you specific guidance for your situation instead of generic advice.

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