Anyone used Unemployment Law Project for ESD appeal? Need experiences ASAP
I just got hit with an ESD disqualification letter saying I 'voluntarily quit without good cause' which is total BS. My employer basically changed my schedule to impossible hours knowing I had childcare issues, and when I couldn't make it work, they claimed I quit. Now ESD wants me to pay back $5,800! I've filed an appeal but I'm freaking out because I definitely can't afford to pay this back. Someone mentioned the Unemployment Law Project might be able to help with my case. Has anyone here actually used them? Were they helpful? Did they charge you? I've got my appeal hearing scheduled in 3 weeks and I'm completely lost about how to prepare or what evidence I need. Any experiences with ULP would be super appreciated!
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GalaxyGlider
I used Unemployment Law Project last year for a similar situation. They're a non-profit that provides free/low-cost legal help specifically for unemployment cases. They were honestly amazing for me. They don't charge if you're low income - they asked about my finances and said I qualified for free representation. A lawyer helped me prepare all my evidence and even represented me at the hearing. In my case, ESD originally disqualified me saying I didn't meet job search requirements, but ULP helped me prove I actually did complete them but the employer's system wasn't recording them properly. We won the appeal and I didn't have to pay back anything. Their website is unemploymentlawproject.org - you should contact them ASAP because they get super busy. They prioritize cases that are close to hearing dates though, so with 3 weeks left you should be fine.
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Emma Davis
•Omg thank you so much for this info! I'm definitely low income right now so maybe I'll qualify for the free help. Did you have to bring any specific documents to your first meeting with them? I'll call them first thing tomorrow.
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Malik Robinson
ULP is good but they are SWAMPED with cases. i tried to get help from them but they couldnt take my case bc they had too many ppl already. ended up representing myself and lost :( make sure you call them TODAY not tomorrow bc seriously they fill up fast
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Emma Davis
•Oh no, that's really concerning. I'll call them today then. Sorry you had to go through your hearing alone, that sucks.
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Isabella Silva
I'm an employment attorney and while I don't work directly with ULP, I can confirm they provide excellent services. For your specific situation (schedule change affecting childcare), you should gather these documents before your hearing: 1. Any written communication about your original work schedule when hired 2. Documentation of the schedule change (emails, texts, new posted schedules) 3. Evidence of your childcare situation (provider hours, contracts) 4. Any communication where you explained the conflict to your employer 5. Witnesses who can testify about your attempts to resolve the issue Under Washington law, a substantial involuntary schedule change that conflicts with necessary childcare can qualify as "good cause" for leaving employment, especially if you made reasonable efforts to resolve the conflict before leaving. ULP can help you frame this argument properly. If ULP can't take your case due to capacity issues, consider contacting the Northwest Justice Project or your county's volunteer legal services as alternatives.
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Emma Davis
•Wow, thank you for that detailed advice! I didn't know a schedule change affecting childcare could qualify as good cause. I definitely have texts where I tried to work something out with my manager. This gives me hope!
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Ravi Choudhury
My cousin used them last summer and they helped her win her appeal but she had to wait like 2 weeks for them to get back to her initially. Something about intake process? Just keep calling if you don't hear back right away
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Freya Andersen
I had a HORRIBLE experience with ESD claims last year. Waited 4 months for a determination only to be denied for ridiculous reasons. Called ULP and they were booked solid. Ended up just getting hung up on by ESD every time I called to explain my situation!! FINALLY found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual ESD agent in about 20 minutes after waiting for weeks. The agent was able to look at my file and actually found that there were notes in the system supporting my case that the adjudicator missed!! If you need to talk to ESD directly (which you might alongside ULP), check out their video to see how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 and their website is claimyr.com. Literally saved my sanity during the whole appeal process.
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Malik Robinson
•did claimyr actually work?? i always assumed those services were scams lol. might try it bc I STILL cant get through to esd about my new claim
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Freya Andersen
•Yeah it actually worked for me! Not a scam at all - they basically keep dialing ESD for you using their system and then call you when they get through. Saved me from having to sit on hold for hours only to get disconnected.
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Omar Farouk
The system is RIGGED against workers!!! ESD automatically sides with employers because they don't want to pay out benefits. I had ULP help me and even WITH their help I still lost my appeal. The OAH judge totally ignored my evidence. Now I'm stuck with a $7,200 overpayment that I'll NEVER be able to pay back. The whole unemployment system is corrupt and broken!!!
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Isabella Silva
•While I understand your frustration, ESD decisions can actually be appealed beyond OAH to the Commissioner's Review Office and even to Superior Court if necessary. Many cases that lose at the OAH level are reversed higher up. Did ULP discuss these options with you? Also, you can request an overpayment waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship.
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GalaxyGlider
Back to the original question about ULP: when you call them, have these things ready: 1. Your ESD claim ID number 2. The date of your scheduled hearing 3. A copy of your disqualification letter 4. A basic timeline of what happened with your job They'll do an initial screening to see if they can take your case. If they can, they'll schedule a longer meeting to go through everything in detail. The attorney I worked with spent about 2 hours helping me organize my evidence and prepare my testimony. They know exactly what the Administrative Law Judges are looking for in these cases. Be completely honest with them about all aspects of your situation - even things you think might hurt your case. They need the full picture to represent you effectively.
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Emma Davis
•This is super helpful, thank you! I called ULP today and left a message. They said they'd get back to me within 48 hours. Fingers crossed they can help me because I'm so confused about this whole process.
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CosmicCadet
my friend had a situation with ULP where they couldnt take her full case but still gave her a free consultation with advice on how to handle her own hearing like what evidence to bring and what to say it was still super helpful even tho they didnt represent her
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Emma Davis
UPDATE: ULP called me back and agreed to take my case! They're assigning me an attorney who specializes in "voluntary quit" cases. I have a meeting with them next week to go through all my evidence. They said based on what I described, I have a decent chance of winning my appeal, especially since I have texts showing I tried to work with my employer on the schedule issue before leaving. Thanks everyone for your advice! I'll post another update after my hearing to let you know how it goes. For anyone facing a similar situation, definitely reach out to ULP as soon as possible!
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GalaxyGlider
•That's great news! Make sure to bring all the documentation the attorney above suggested, especially anything showing you tried to resolve the scheduling conflict before leaving. Good luck with your hearing!
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Malik Robinson
•lucky!! hope it works out for u!!
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