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UPDATE: Found the reopen option under Manage Claims! It was hidden in a submenu. Submitted the request and now it shows as 'pending review.' Hopefully this works without needing to call anyone. Thanks everyone for the help!
Congrats on finding the reopen option! Just a heads up - while your request is pending review, start gathering all your documentation (termination papers, any work you did between claims, etc.) in case they ask for additional verification. Also, once it's approved, you can usually start filing your weekly claims right away even if the first payment takes a bit longer to process. The key is not to let any weeks go unfiled once you're active again. Good luck!
One additional note based on your situation: Since you mentioned the LLC might call you back in a few months, you might qualify for "standby" status when you reopen your claim. Standby means you can receive benefits without having to do the usual job search activities because you're expected to return to your employer. For standby, you generally need: 1. A definite return-to-work date (within 8 weeks, though there are exceptions) 2. Written verification from your employer 3. A history of working for this employer (which you now have) Standby status is much easier than regular unemployment since you don't have to do and document the 3 job searches per week. Worth asking about when you speak with ESD.
That's REALLY good to know. I don't think my employer can give me a definite return date, just a possibility of work in a few months. But I'll definitely ask about this when I talk to ESD. The job search requirements are always such a hassle, especially when you know you might be going back to your previous employer.
I went through something similar about a year ago! For backdating, definitely be persistent - I had to call multiple times and got different answers from different agents. The key thing that helped me was having a clear, consistent explanation for why I missed filing each week. "I was confused about the appeal process and thought I couldn't file" is actually a pretty common and understandable reason, so don't stress too much about that. One tip for getting through on the phone: Try calling exactly at 8:00 AM when they open, but also try again around 4:30 PM. I found late in the day sometimes had shorter wait times because most people give up by then. For the temp job situation - definitely get documentation about the layoff being due to lack of work. And if they do mention a possible callback, get that in writing too even if it's not definite. ESD appreciates any documentation that shows the separation wasn't your fault. Good luck! The whole system is frustrating but you can get through it with persistence.
Based on everything in this thread, here's what I recommend: 1. Wait 5-7 business days from when you reopened the claim to see if the training week processes automatically 2. If nothing happens by then, you need to contact ESD specifically about "Trade Apprenticeship Training" (not standby or regular CAT) 3. Ask your union training coordinator to verify they've submitted the current apprenticeship program documentation to ESD's Trade Program Unit 4. When you do get through to ESD, request that they review all previous similar claims to ensure consistency in handling 5. Ask for written confirmation of the correct procedure for future training weeks This should help prevent the cycle of conflicting information that's caused problems in the past.
I went through something very similar with my spouse's plumbing apprenticeship! One thing that really helped us was getting a copy of the actual apprenticeship agreement that the union has on file with ESD. Turns out our local had submitted outdated paperwork years ago and it was causing all kinds of coding issues in the system. Once we got the union to update their documentation with ESD's Trade Program Unit, the training weeks started processing automatically. Also, I learned that you can actually check if the apprenticeship program is properly registered by calling the Department of Labor & Industries apprenticeship office - they can verify if ESD has the current program details. Might be worth checking since you've had issues for 3 out of 5 years. The whole system is definitely confusing but once it's set up correctly it should work smoothly!
UPDATE: I called OAH this morning like @profile5 suggested. They confirmed the judge ruled in MY FAVOR and waived the entire overpayment! That's why I have the CRO Petition - ESD is appealing the judge's decision. The OAH rep said they resent the decision letter which I should receive in a few days. Thanks everyone for your help figuring this out. I'll keep you posted on what happens with the Commissioner review!
CONGRATS!!! That's awesome news! And exactly what I thought was happening. They ALWAYS appeal when they lose. Make sure you keep all your documentation in case this drags on longer.
Wow, what a rollercoaster! I'm so glad you called OAH directly - that was brilliant advice from @Vanessa Chang. It's ridiculous how ESD's system shows these cryptic statuses without any explanation. I went through something similar 6 months ago and spent weeks panicking over confusing status updates. The fact that they ruled in your favor is huge! Even if ESD appeals to the Commissioner, you're in a much stronger position now. Keep copies of everything and don't let them intimidate you during this CRO process. You've already proven your case once!
Giovanni Mancini
By the way, when you start entering job search activities, the ESD website can be really glitchy. Sometimes it will time out or lose your information if you take too long. I recommend writing down all your job search details before you start your weekly claim, so you can enter everything quickly without the system timing out.
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Amara Nnamani
•ya that happened 2 me like 5 times so annoyin
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
One more thing - remember that job search activities don't just mean applying for jobs. You can also count: 1. Attending WorkSource workshops (virtual or in-person) 2. Meeting with a career counselor 3. Posting your resume on job boards 4. Creating profiles on employer websites 5. Attending job fairs Makes it easier to get your 3 activities each week if you expand beyond just applications.
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GalacticGuru
•That's really helpful information! I'll definitely look into the WorkSource workshops especially. Are there any you recommend that are particularly useful?
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Noah Torres
•I've done several WorkSource workshops and found the "Resume Writing in the Digital Age" and "Interview Skills" workshops really useful. They're offered virtually multiple times per week which makes scheduling easier. The "LinkedIn Optimization" workshop is great too if you're trying to build your online presence. You can register for them on the WorkSource website and they count as valid job search activities. Plus you actually learn useful stuff that helps with your job hunt!
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