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Hey, I just noticed something in your original post - you mentioned this is a 12-week program? Make sure you're aware that after 5 weeks on unemployment, your job search requirements change and you have to be willing to accept work outside your usual occupation or at lower pay (like 90% of previous wages for weeks 5-8, then 80% after that). So if retail jobs that require weekend work become "suitable employment" for you after a few weeks, that gardening program could actually make you unavailable for suitable work by ESD's definition.
That's an excellent point about the expanded job search requirements after 5 weeks. The definition of "suitable work" does broaden over time, which could potentially include positions requiring weekend availability depending on your work history and local job market. This is exactly why documenting your situation with ESD is important - to establish that you understood the requirements and remained in compliance throughout your claim.
Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm going to try contacting ESD directly to document this situation. Better to be upfront now than deal with problems later. I'll make it clear that I'm primarily looking for work in my field (which is typically M-F) but that I'm willing to accept suitable work even if it means quitting the gardening program. Sounds like being transparent is the safest approach.
Smart decision. Getting everything documented now will save you headaches later. When you do reach out to ESD, make sure to take notes on who you spoke with, the date/time, and what they told you. That documentation can be really valuable if questions come up later about your claim.
Has anyone tried going to WorkSource in person? I heard from a friend that sometimes the WorkSource staff can see what's happening with your claim and might be able to make internal calls to ESD on your behalf. Worth a shot maybe?
This is hit or miss. Some WorkSource offices have dedicated ESD staff who can help, others don't. Call your local WorkSource office first and specifically ask if they have any ESD specialists on site before making the trip. The Vancouver and Tacoma WorkSource offices definitely have ESD staff, but smaller offices may not.
UPDATE: I want to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions! I ended up doing several things: 1) Emailed my state rep with specific details about my claim, 2) Used Claimyr to finally reach an ESD agent who escalated my claim when I explained my financial hardship, and 3) Discovered and completed a hidden task in my online account. Not sure which one did the trick, but my adjudication was completed yesterday and benefits are being deposited tomorrow! Don't give up hope if you're stuck in adjudication - being persistent and trying multiple approaches really does help.
Ugggghhhh the ESD system is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR. I went through this exact nightmare scenario in January. Waiting week status for TWENTY-THREE DAYS with zero explanation! When I finally got through to someone they said "oh we needed to verify something with your employer" - THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT THREE WEEKS AGO???? The whole system is designed to frustrate people into giving up. They WANT you to abandon your claim. Don't let them win! Keep calling, keep messaging, and document EVERYTHING in case you need to appeal.
While I understand your frustration, I don't think the system is intentionally designed to make people give up. ESD is dealing with thousands of claims with limited staff. The verification processes are important to prevent fraud. That said, they absolutely should improve their communication and let claimants know when something specific is holding up their claim.
UPDATE: I finally got through to someone! Used the Claimyr service mentioned below and got connected to an ESD agent in about 15 minutes. Turns out there was an employer verification issue - my former company hadn't responded to ESD's request for information. The agent submitted an override since it had been more than 10 days with no employer response. She said my payment should process in 48-72 hours. Such a relief! Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions!
That's a common issue - employers have a limited time to respond to ESD inquiries, and if they don't, ESD is supposed to proceed with the claim. Glad you got it resolved! Make sure you continue filing your weekly claims on time while you wait for that payment to process.
I hate to say this but you might need to talk to a lawyer who specializes in unemployment issues. I know it's expensive, but when you're facing $22k in repayments, it might be worth it. The Legal Aid office sometimes offers free consultations for these cases.
That's a good point. I'm going to try these other suggestions first, but if I can't make progress, I'll look into legal aid. Thanks for the advice.
If you go the appeal route, make sure to clearly explain how you calculated your weekly income from your biweekly payments. The key issue will be whether you properly reported your work hours and earnings each week, even if the actual payment was biweekly. For example, if you earned $1600 biweekly for 80 hours of work, ESD would expect you to report $800 for each week (40 hours). If you reported the full $1600 only on the weeks you received payment, that would trigger an overpayment determination because it would appear you weren't reporting income for the alternate weeks. The good news is that if this was an honest misunderstanding about reporting requirements rather than intentional fraud, you have a much better chance of getting the overpayment reduced or the penalties waived.
That explains a lot. I think this is exactly what happened - I reported income when I actually received my paychecks rather than splitting it weekly. No one ever explained that I needed to calculate it differently. I never intended to misreport anything. Thank you for explaining this!
Tony Brooks
my cousins friend works at esd and she said they're having MAJOR computer problems this month. like their whole system is being updated or something. that's probably why your getting kicked out AND why your claim shows wrong info. id wait til next week before panicking maybe
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Owen Jenkins
•Thanks for the insider info! That's actually a bit reassuring. Maybe the disqualification is just a glitch from their system issues. I'll keep trying to reach someone but won't completely panic yet.
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Julia Hall
I just got off the phone with ESD (used that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier - got through in about 20 minutes instead of days of calling). The rep confirmed they're having serious system issues right now that are affecting both the timeout problems AND claim statuses showing incorrectly for some people. The rep suggested taking screenshots of any error messages, and if your claim status suddenly changed without notification, they recommended checking again in 3-5 business days once their system update is complete. However, they also said if you're approaching the 30-day appeal window, you should file an appeal anyway just to protect your rights. Thought I'd share this update since it might help others with similar issues!
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Owen Jenkins
•Thank you SO MUCH for reporting back with this info! That actually makes me feel a lot better. I just took screenshots of the disqualification status. Still couldn't get in today without timing out, but I'll keep trying periodically. If I still can't access anything by Monday, I'll try that Claimyr service. Thanks again!!
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