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this happened to me to. i just started applying for jobs in portland even tho i live in vancouver. never would have taken them but who cares ESD just wants to see the numbers
Just to clarify some of the advice here: while expanding your search area is reasonable, be careful about applying for jobs you have absolutely no intention of accepting. If you're offered a position and refuse it without good cause, ESD can disqualify you for benefits. "Good cause" typically means the job is unsuitable for your skills/experience, pays substantially less than your previous work, or would require an unreasonable commute. What constitutes an "unreasonable commute" varies, but generally anything over 1 hour each way might qualify - though ESD evaluates this case-by-case. If you're applying for remote positions or jobs in other cities with the genuine willingness to relocate if offered, that's completely legitimate. I'd suggest focusing on quality rather than quantity in your job search activities. Three meaningful activities each week that actually advance your employment prospects are better than scrambling to hit the number with activities that won't lead anywhere.
i waited 2.5 weeks for my first payment but then all the other weeks came right away after that! hang in there
im pretty sure they check everything cuz my friend got caught lying about his hours and had to pay back like $5000 plus they added a penalty. dont mess with esd they will find out eventually
Update: Wanted to share what happened in case anyone finds this thread with the same question. After 6 weeks of working part-time and claiming, I got a letter from ESD saying they're doing a routine audit of my claim. They asked me to submit copies of my paystubs for verification. Just like you all said - they do check! I'm glad I've been reporting everything accurately. Still waiting to hear back after submitting my documentation.
UGH these companies that fight every claim make me so ANGRY!!!! I worked for a place like that - they'd fire people for made up reasons then contest EVERY SINGLE unemployment claim. And ESD just believes whatever garbage employers say!!! Make sure you emphasize that they NEVER warned you about vaping before. In my experience, judges want to see that employers gave warnings before firing for rule violations. Also, if you can get ANY coworker to text or email you confirming others vaped too without getting fired, that's gold!!! Shows they singled you out after your complaint email. Keep fighting!!!! The system is designed to wear you down but DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!
You make an excellent point about the lack of prior warnings. Under Washington's unemployment regulations, even an actual rule violation may not qualify as misconduct if the employee wasn't given proper warning that the behavior could lead to termination. This is especially relevant for policies that aren't consistently enforced.
I filed the appeal yesterday! Hearing is scheduled for next month. I contacted the Unemployment Law Project and have a consultation with them tomorrow. I've been documenting everything and got two former coworkers (who recently quit) willing to provide statements about the work conditions and how management reacted to my email. Feeling cautiously hopeful but still super stressed about money in the meantime.
Marcus Marsh
when i had my appeal last year the judge let me submit new evidence at the hearing that i didnt include with my original appeal letter. so if you remember anything else helpful later you can still use it. also keep applying for jobs and document all that cuz they might ask about your job search during appeal too
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Nia Watson
•yep this is super important!!! u gotta keep doing those 3 job search activities every week and logging them even during appeal or they can deny u for that reason even if u win the misconduct thing
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Kristin Frank
•Good reminder about the job search activities - I've been doing them but need to make sure I'm documenting thoroughly in case that comes up during the appeal too.
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Micah Trail
One more thing I forgot to mention - if your appeal is denied, you can appeal AGAIN to the Commissioner's Review Office. I had to do this because I lost my first appeal, but won on the second level review. So even if the first appeal goes against you, don't give up! The higher level review often reverses decisions.
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Kristin Frank
•I didn't know there was a second level of appeal! That's good to know. I'm really hoping to win on the first try though because I can't go much longer without income. Did you have to wait a long time between the first and second appeals?
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Micah Trail
•It took about 8 weeks between my first appeal hearing and getting the Commissioner's Review decision. Not fast, but worth it in the end. Hang in there!
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