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The whole ESD appeal system is designed to favor employers. I had PERFECT documentation and still lost because the ALJ (Administrative Law Judge) decided my boss was "more credible" despite having zero evidence. The system is rigged, I'm sorry to say. Don't be surprised if you lose even with good evidence. I'm still fighting my case 8 months later. Appealed to Commissioner's Review Office but they rubber-stamp everything.
While some people do have negative experiences, I wouldn't say the system is entirely rigged. In fact, statistics show that claimants win a significant percentage of appeals, especially when they have documentation. Your individual case may have had specific issues, but making blanket statements that the system is designed to favor employers isn't accurate or helpful to someone preparing for a hearing.
Update: I just finished my hearing and I think it went well! The judge was super professional and didn't let my ex-boss interrupt me. When she tried claiming I was "insubordinate," the judge asked for specific examples and dates, and she couldn't provide any. He also accepted my last-minute evidence submission. I made sure to ask questions when it was my turn, just like you all suggested. I asked why the reason for my termination changed three times in her statements to ESD, and she got really flustered. The judge noticed that too. Now I just have to wait for the decision. Thank you all SO MUCH for your advice - I felt much more prepared and confident than I would have otherwise. Will update when I get the ruling!
im on week 6 of waiting for my first payment lol. approved doesnt mean anything. welcome to the washington esd system!
SIX WEEKS??? That should be illegal! Have you called them? Contacted your state rep? This is exactly why I'm saying the system is broken!!!
ya ive called like 20 times. they keep saying "its in the system" whatever that means
Just to follow up on this thread - one common reason for payment delays after approval is the bank verification process. ESD sometimes does micro-deposits to verify your account before sending the full payment amount. Check your bank account for any small deposits (usually less than $1) from Washington State. Also, if you have any previous employers contesting your claim, that can cause delays even after initial approval. The status might show approved while they're still resolving an employer dispute in the background. For weekly claims after your first payment, the standard timing is processing on Sunday/Monday and deposit by Wednesday/Thursday if there are no issues.
Update: The money finally came through this morning! Looks like it took exactly 13 days after approval. Thanks everyone for your help and advice. For anyone else reading this later, just know that "approved" doesn't mean immediate payment - be prepared to wait 1-2 weeks for that first payment to process.
anyone else notice ESD always says 'paid' way before it actually pays?? like why even have that status if it doesnt mean anything lol
Actually, 'paid' means ESD has processed the payment on their end and sent the payment instruction to the bank or card processor. It doesn't mean the money has arrived in your account yet. There are multiple systems involved: ESD's payment system, the ACH transfer network, and your bank's processing system. Each step takes time. From what you've described, I think you'll see the money very soon. First payments almost always take longer than subsequent ones. Once you're in their regular payment cycle, it becomes much more predictable.
my brother had this happen when he got a job at walmart after being laid off from boeing. he filed his final week and reported the hours and got like $75 instead of his full amount but at least it was something. def file your claim man
Just to clarify a few things that have been mentioned: 1. Yes, file your claim and report all hours/earnings 2. ESD deducts 75% of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount 3. You should answer the job search questions accurately - if you consider yourself still looking for work (which makes sense given the pay cut), then answer accordingly 4. Your claim remains active for your benefit year 5. If your hours increase to full-time at this job, you'd be considered fully employed even if the pay is low Hope this helps clear up any confusion!
Brooklyn Knight
dont 4get that u also gotta do the job search requirements, its like 3 activities a week in washington. dunno what arkansas requires but make sure u keep track of everything!
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Ella Harper
•Thanks for the reminder! I'll definitely keep detailed records of my job search activities no matter which state I end up filing with.
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PrinceJoe
One more important thing to consider - once you determine which state to file in, you'll need to make sure you're following that state's weekly claim filing and job search requirements. Washington requires 3 job search activities per week that you must document and be ready to present if audited. They can deny benefits retroactively if you haven't been maintaining proper job search records. Also, when you apply with Washington ESD, be completely transparent about your Arkansas residency. Trying to hide that fact could lead to an overpayment determination later if they discover it.
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Ella Harper
•I appreciate all the advice everyone! I'm going to check with HR first thing tomorrow about where they've been reporting my wages, and then file my claim with the appropriate state. I'll definitely be upfront about my living situation and make sure I follow all the job search requirements. Hopefully the process goes smoothly, but it's good to know about options like Claimyr if I run into trouble reaching ESD. I'll update here once I get things figured out in case it helps someone else in the future.
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