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To summarize for everyone concerned about these refunds:\n\n1. Yes, they are legitimate refunds resulting from ESD's benefit calculation audit\n2. Official documentation is being mailed but is delayed (expect within 2 weeks)\n3. The money is yours to keep - it's a correction of an underpayment\n4. The refunds are taxable income for 2025 (will be on your 1099-G)\n5. If you need immediate confirmation, contacting ESD directly is your best option\n\nI hope this helps ease everyone's concerns. This is a rare case where ESD is actually correcting errors in the claimants' favor!

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! I think I'll wait for the letter before spending the money, but I'm definitely feeling much better about the situation. Really appreciate everyone's input and experiences.

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Let me just add something important - did you receive any written warnings before being fired? Was there a progressive discipline policy they were supposed to follow but didn't? Those details can really matter in your case, especially if they claim it was for performance but can't show they followed their own policies. And for what it's worth, I've seen claims get approved even when the employer responded late with their side of things, but the employee had good documentation showing the termination wasn't for misconduct or truly poor performance. So gather whatever evidence you can!

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I received one written warning about 4 months ago, but it was for something completely different than what they ended up firing me for. And they totally skipped the "improvement plan" step that's in their handbook. Does that help my case?

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Yes! That's exactly the kind of thing that can help your case. Make sure you mention that they skipped steps in their own progressive discipline policy. If you have a copy of the employee handbook section about discipline, have that ready too. Adjudicators look closely at whether employers followed their own policies.

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I had a similar thing happen and my claim was in adjudication for almost 6 weeks!!! Keep filing your weekly claims even though you're not getting paid yet. If they approve you, you'll get all the back payments at once. But yeah, the employer responding late doesn't automatically approve you - wish it did lol

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This is absolutely correct and very important - ALWAYS continue filing your weekly claims during adjudication, even though you're not receiving payments. If you stop filing and then get approved later, you can't go back and claim those missed weeks.

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This overpayment situation is actually quite common with PUA and other pandemic unemployment programs. The formal notices stating you're "not responsible for repayment of any kind" are likely the result of blanket overpayment waivers that were authorized by federal legislation for non-fraudulent COVID-related overpayments. What you're experiencing is a disconnect between ESD's waiver processing and their accounting systems. Here's what I would recommend: 1. Double-check that the notices specifically reference your current claim ID and the exact overpayment amount you're concerned about 2. Submit a records request through ESD's Public Records department (you can do this online) asking for all documents related to your overpayment balance and any waivers applied 3. Keep copies of all waiver notices in a safe place - these are your legal protection The lack of collection activity is actually a good sign that the waiver is recognized in their enforcement system, even if the accounting system still shows a balance. This is a known issue with ESD's outdated computer systems. Getting it fully resolved will likely require speaking with someone at ESD who has the authority to manually adjust your account.

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I never thought about doing a formal records request - that's a great idea! I'll look into that right away. And yes, the notices do reference my specific claim ID and mention the original overpayment amount (though not the current reduced amount). This makes me feel a bit better knowing it's a known systems issue rather than something unique to my situation.

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A bunch of us at my old job got hit with these overpayment notices after COVID and almost everyone I know got them reduced or waived completely. But the ESD computer system is like ancient and doesn't update right. My cousin works for DSHS (different agency but they talk) and she said the notices saying your not responsible are the official legal document that matters, not what the computer shows. But yeah if u can get through to them somehow get them to correct the computer balance too just for peace of mind.

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Thanks for sharing that insider perspective! It's reassuring to hear that the notices are what legally matter. I'll definitely try to get the computer balance fixed too, just so I don't have to keep stressing about this.

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At my last job, I actually processed unemployment claims for the state of Nevada (similar system to WA). The training is incredibly intensive because one small mistake can cause massive overpayments or wrongful denials. I had three months of training and still made mistakes my first year. Accessing sensitive data also requires background checks and security clearances that take time. That said, ESD should absolutely implement a callback system rather than making people wait on hold. That technology exists and many other states use it. No excuse for not having that in 2025.

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A callback system would be amazing! I'd feel so much better giving my number and getting a call back in 3 hours than sitting on hold praying I don't get disconnected after waiting forever. Is there some place where we can suggest that to ESD?

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You can submit feedback about the callback suggestion through the Contact Us form on the ESD website, but honestly reaching out to your state representatives might be more effective. They have direct channels to ESD leadership and constituent complaints get prioritized. Worth a shot!

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Good advice! I emailed my rep during my claim issues and got a call from someone at ESD within 48 hours. Didn't solve everything but at least got the ball rolling.

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Try calling the technical support line instead of the main claims line. When you get someone from tech support, explain that you've been unable to reach claims for weeks. Sometimes they'll transfer you directly to a claims specialist, bypassing the main queue. Worked for me twice in the past month!

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I tried this yesterday and got yelled at by the tech support person who said they can't transfer to claims and that I was "gaming the system" by calling their line. So your mileage may vary with this approach...

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UPDATE: I finally got through!!! Used that Claimyr service someone mentioned above and was connected to an agent in about 30 mins. They fixed my claim issue right away - turns out there was a simple verification problem they could have solved in 5 minutes if I could have just reached them weeks ago! So frustrating but at least it's resolved now. Thanks everyone for your suggestions!

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awesome! glad u got it figured out. the whole system is so broken its ridiculous.

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