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UPDATE: I talked to my brother again and got more details. He definitely had a 12-month contract with no breaks in service (he even worked through summers doing major maintenance projects). The denial letter specifically cites RCW 50.44.050 about reasonable assurance of returning after breaks. He's going to call ESD tomorrow to try to get this straightened out, then file an appeal if needed. I'll update everyone once we hear something. Thanks for all the advice!!!
Perfect - that RCW citation confirms exactly what I suspected. This is a clear misapplication of the educational employee provision. When he calls, he should specifically ask to speak with an adjudicator who specializes in educational employee claims. Regular agents often don't fully understand the nuances of this rule.
One more tip: When your brother appeals, he should specifically request backdating of benefits to his original filing date once the appeal is approved. I've seen cases where ESD only paid from the appeal decision date forward, not from the original claim date. This could be thousands of dollars difference! Good luck!
You should submit any documents you want considered at least 24 hours before the hearing. There should be instructions in the hearing notice about how to submit them. If you miss that window, you can still ask the judge during the hearing if you can submit them, but they have discretion whether to accept late submissions. Make sure to send copies to the employer as well - the hearing notice should explain the process for this too.
My hearing was so stressful I nearly threw up beforehand, but it ended up being way more straightforward than I expected. Just remember that the judges do this all day long and they're used to people being nervous. Also when my old company lied about stuff, the judge actually called them out on contradictions in their testimony!! I was shocked, I thought no one would believe me but the judge was actually super fair.
To address your original question about getting "railroaded" - in my experience and from what I've heard from others, the OAH judges tend to be fair but strict about following procedures. They're not ESD employees and are supposed to be neutral. One important tip: when it's your turn to speak, be concise and directly address the reason for disqualification. Since yours is about job search activities, focus exclusively on proving you did those activities and have a good reason for not logging them on time. Also, make sure to call in 5-10 minutes before the scheduled time, have all your documents organized, and be in a quiet place. Good preparation makes a huge difference in these hearings.
Practicing is actually a great idea. It helps you organize your thoughts and prepare for potential questions. Another thing to understand about these hearings: in 2025, ESD is processing a high volume of appeals, so ALJs (Administrative Law Judges) are trying to be efficient. This means: 1. Be on time and ready when they call 2. Answer questions directly - don't go off on tangents 3. If you don't understand something, politely ask for clarification 4. Have your case number and identifying information ready at the start The decision truly isn't made until after the hearing. I've seen many cases where proper documentation and a clear explanation have overturned the initial disqualification, especially in job search logging cases where the actual activities were completed.
Update us after you call them! I suspect this is a technical error rather than an actual policy application. I've seen similar situations where the system automatically disqualifies claims that should just have deductions. Once a knowledgeable agent reviews it manually, they should be able to correct it and process your payments. One other possibility: did you fully complete all your job search activities each week and report them correctly? Sometimes people get confused between being disqualified for income reasons versus job search compliance issues.
Kai Rivera
Update: I used Claimyr yesterday after seeing it mentioned here and actually got through to an ESD rep in about 40 minutes! Didn't have to sit by my phone either - they just called me when they had an agent. My question about relocating was answered and they updated something in my file too. Just wanted to let everyone know it worked for me.
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Layla Sanders
•How much did that cost though? Seems wrong we have to PAY to access a government service our taxes already fund!!!
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Anna Stewart
i had this same problem back in februarry. so annoying!!! the whole system is a joke
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