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Great question about the stock options! I went through something similar last year with my severance package that included both cash and accelerated stock vesting. Washington ESD typically only considers the cash portion of severance for UI benefit calculations - the stock option acceleration is usually treated separately since it's not immediate income. However, I'd strongly recommend being completely transparent about all components when you file your initial claim. When I spoke with Washington ESD (took a few tries to get through), they told me to report the cash amount for the severance calculation and note the stock component separately. The stock vesting didn't affect my weekly benefit reduction at all, but they appreciated having the full picture upfront. Better to over-disclose than have questions come up later during an audit or review.
@Fatima Al-Hashemi This is super helpful information about the stock component! I was worried I d'have to somehow calculate the value of accelerated vesting and include it in the severance proration. Knowing that Washington ESD typically only looks at the cash portion for benefit calculations makes this much less complicated. I ll'definitely follow your advice about being completely transparent when filing - better to give them too much information than not enough. Did you have to provide any specific documentation about the stock options, or was it sufficient to just mention them when reporting? I want to make sure I have everything organized before I file my claim.
I'm going through a similar severance situation right now and this thread has been incredibly valuable! One thing I wanted to add based on my research is that Washington ESD also distinguishes between "true severance" and "pay in lieu of notice." If your severance is specifically labeled as pay covering a certain time period (like "two weeks pay in lieu of notice"), it might be treated differently than a general separation payment. I'd recommend asking your HR department to clarify exactly how your $8,000 severance is categorized in their system. Also, I've found that printing out this entire discussion thread is actually helpful to bring with you if you end up having to visit a WorkSource office in person - the staff there often appreciate seeing real examples of how these calculations work in practice. The consistency of everyone's experiences here really shows that Washington ESD's proration method is pretty standardized once you get through to someone who knows the rules.
@Mikayla Brown That s'a really important distinction about true "severance vs" pay "in lieu of notice -" I hadn t'thought about how the labeling might affect Washington ESD s'treatment of the payment. I m'definitely going to ask HR for clarification on exactly how they re'categorizing my $8,000 package in their documentation. The idea of printing out this thread to bring to WorkSource is brilliant too - having real examples from people who went through the process could really help if I run into any confusion with staff who might not be familiar with severance calculations. It s'reassuring to see how consistent everyone s'experiences have been with the proration method. This whole discussion has transformed my anxiety about this situation into actual confidence about how to handle it properly.
@Mikayla Brown This is such a crucial point about the labeling distinction! I just checked my severance paperwork and it s'actually labeled as Severance "Payment rather" than pay "in lieu of notice, which" sounds like it should fall into the true "severance category" that gets prorated rather than delaying my claim start date. Reading through everyone s'experiences here has been way more helpful than anything I found on the official Washington ESD website. The consistency in how they handle the proration calculations gives me confidence that this is a well-established process, even if it s'not clearly explained in their online resources. I m'definitely going to ask HR for a detailed breakdown of exactly what my $8,000 covers and get everything in writing before my last day. Thanks for the tip about bringing this thread to WorkSource - having real examples from people who actually navigated this process successfully could be invaluable if I need to explain my situation in person.
I'm going through this nightmare right now too! Got flagged for "able and available" for the last week of February. What's driving me crazy is that I was literally sitting by my phone every day hoping someone would call for an interview, and now they want me to PROVE I was ready to work? Based on what everyone's saying here, I'm putting together a statement that covers: - Exact hours I was available (I'm doing 6 AM to 10 PM, 7 days a week) - Transportation details (my 2018 Honda Accord with valid license and insurance) - No medical issues, no travel, no other commitments - Reference to my work search log showing I applied to 8 jobs that week The thing that really gets me is how they make it sound like you did something wrong when really they're just doing random audits. I've been unemployed for 3 months and have applied to over 100 jobs - if that doesn't show I'm "available" I don't know what does! Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences. At least now I know this is normal ESD bureaucracy and not just them picking on me specifically. Going to submit my documentation tomorrow and keep my fingers crossed.
I feel your frustration! Going through the same thing and it's so stressful when you're already dealing with unemployment. Your statement sounds really comprehensive - mentioning those 8 job applications for that specific week is smart since it directly shows you were actively available and seeking work during the exact period they're questioning. One thing I learned from reading everyone's responses is to be super specific about dates. Since they're asking about the last week of February, maybe include the exact dates (like "February 22-28, 2025") in your statement so they know you're addressing their specific timeframe. It really does seem like random audits based on what everyone's sharing. Hang in there - sounds like most people get approved once they submit the detailed documentation!
I just went through this exact situation two months ago and totally understand your frustration! The "able and available" review is actually pretty routine - they randomly audit claims to ensure compliance with federal requirements. Here's what worked for me: I wrote a detailed statement covering the specific weeks they questioned, including: - My exact availability hours (I put 7 AM to 8 PM, Monday-Saturday) - Transportation details (reliable vehicle with valid license) - Confirmation I had no medical restrictions, wasn't traveling, no school conflicts - Referenced my work search activities during those specific weeks The key is being very specific about the time period they're questioning. Don't just say "I was available" - give them concrete details about HOW you were available. I submitted it through the eServices portal under "Upload Document" and selected "Able and Available Issue." Got approved within 8 business days without needing to call. Your job search log showing 5 applications per week is actually great supporting evidence - make sure to reference that in your statement since it demonstrates you were actively seeking work during the questioned period. Hang in there, this usually resolves pretty quickly once you submit the documentation!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to reference my job search log in my statement since it shows I was actively looking during those exact weeks. Quick question - when you say you put "7 AM to 8 PM, Monday-Saturday," did you specifically avoid saying Sunday or was there a reason? I've been putting 7 days a week in my draft but wondering if being available literally every single day might seem unrealistic to them? Also, did you mention anything about being willing to work different shifts or just stick to those specific hours?
One more tip - if you do get contacted by ESD about the job refusal, don't panic. Answer their questions honestly and provide any documentation they ask for. Most of the time if you have legitimate reasons and you're actively job searching, they'll understand. The system is designed to help people find appropriate work, not force them into bad situations.
I just want to add that it's really important to keep track of your ongoing job search activities too. Even if you refuse a job for valid reasons, ESD will still want to see that you're actively looking for other work. Make sure you're applying to your required number of jobs each week and documenting everything. The job refusal becomes much less of an issue when you can show you're genuinely engaged in finding suitable employment. Also, don't let one unsuitable job offer discourage you from continuing your search - there are better opportunities out there that will be a proper fit for your skills and situation.
This is such great advice! I've been so focused on worrying about the job refusal that I almost forgot the bigger picture - showing I'm still actively searching. I'm definitely going to make sure my job search log is really detailed and shows consistent effort. It's reassuring to know that as long as I'm genuinely looking for appropriate work, one refusal shouldn't derail everything. Thanks for the perspective!
Absolutely this! I was in a similar situation a few months ago and what really helped my case was showing that I was applying to 5-6 jobs per week consistently, even after refusing that one unsuitable offer. When ESD did contact me, they could see from my WorkSource activity and job search log that I was serious about finding work, just not willing to take anything that didn't make sense. The fact that you have other interviews lined up already is actually perfect - it shows you're not just sitting around being picky, you're actively pursuing better opportunities. Keep that momentum going!
Just wanted to add that if you do run into any issues with your claim - like if it gets stuck in adjudication or you need to appeal a decision - Claimyr can also help with those situations. They're not just for initial questions but can help throughout the whole process.
As a fellow union member (IBEW Local 46), I can confirm everything that's been said here is accurate. I've collected unemployment benefits multiple times over the years during slow periods, and being union has never been an issue. One additional tip I'd add - keep good records of all your job search activities, including dates you checked in with your hall, jobs you applied for, and any networking you do with other tradespeople. Washington ESD can audit your work search activities, and having detailed records makes that process much smoother if it ever happens. Also, don't forget that attending union meetings or training classes can sometimes count toward your work search requirements too. Good luck with your claim!
This has been such an educational thread! I'm a newer union member (just joined the local pipefitters about 8 months ago) and was really worried about how unemployment would work if I got laid off. The detailed breakdown from everyone, especially about record-keeping and what counts for work search activities, has been invaluable. I had no idea that union meetings and training could count toward work search requirements - that's a game changer since our local has monthly meetings and regular safety training. Quick question though - if I'm on the union's out-of-work list but also applying for non-union jobs to meet the work search requirements, do I need to tell the union about those non-union applications? I don't want to create any issues with my standing in the local, but I also want to make sure I'm meeting all the ESD requirements properly.
That's a great question about notifying the union regarding non-union job applications! Generally speaking, you don't need to inform your local about every non-union job you apply for as part of your ESD work search requirements. The union understands that unemployment benefits require you to cast a wide net in your job search. However, I'd recommend having a conversation with your business agent or whoever handles the out-of-work list just to clarify your local's expectations. Most unions are pretty understanding about members needing to meet ESD requirements during unemployment - they want you to get back to work and keep your benefits current. The key thing is being upfront about your availability for union work when opportunities do come up through the hall. As long as you're responsive to union job calls and maintain your good standing, applying for non-union work to meet unemployment requirements shouldn't be an issue. Every local is a bit different though, so checking with your BA is always the smart move.
Madison Tipne
I went through something similar last year. My sister missed work for 2 days without calling due to a mental health crisis and initially got denied benefits. But she appealed with documentation from her therapist and hospital records, and Washington ESD eventually approved her claim. The key was proving it wasn't willful misconduct but rather circumstances beyond her control. Your coworker should definitely file - even if it seems hopeless, stranger things have happened. The worst they can say is no, but if she doesn't try, the answer is automatically no.
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Ryan Vasquez
•That's really encouraging to hear about your sister's case! Mental health crises are definitely circumstances beyond someone's control. It sounds like having the right documentation made all the difference in her appeal. I'll make sure to tell my coworker that even if she gets initially denied, the appeal process could still work in her favor if she has any documentation to support extenuating circumstances.
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Dylan Wright
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - my roommate got fired for no call no show but she had a legitimate medical emergency. From what I've learned reading through all these responses, it really comes down to whether there were circumstances beyond her control and if she has documentation to prove it. Even though the odds might not be great for typical no call no show cases, Washington ESD does evaluate each situation individually. The consensus here seems to be that she should definitely file anyway since there's nothing to lose by trying. If she gets denied, she can always appeal with any evidence she might have. The whole process might take a while but it's better than not trying at all.
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