Will non-covered employment show up on my Social Security earnings record or is it just zeros?
I've been working for my state government (non-covered pension system) for the past 3 years and just checked my Social Security statement online. Those years show $0 in earnings even though I made around $58,000 each year. Is this normal, or should I contact SSA to have them at least record my actual salary somewhere? I understand these earnings don't count toward SS benefits due to not paying FICA taxes, but it feels weird having these 'zero' years in my record. Will this create problems when I apply for benefits later? I have about 15 years of covered employment before taking this job.
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Ryan Andre
This is completely normal. Years you work in non-covered employment (jobs where you don't pay Social Security taxes) will always show as $0 on your Social Security earnings record, regardless of how much you actually earned. The SSA only tracks earnings that have Social Security taxes withheld because those are the only earnings that count toward your future benefit calculations. There's no mechanism to record non-covered earnings in the system.
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Nora Bennett
•Thanks for clarifying! Does this mean when I eventually retire, those years will just look like I wasn't working at all? I'm worried about having these gaps in my record.
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Lauren Zeb
my husband had the same thing from working at a railroad for 5 yrs. those earnings dont show. its normal
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Nora Bennett
•Good to know I'm not alone! Did your husband face any issues when applying for benefits later?
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Daniel Washington
They DEFINITELY show as zeros and there's nothing you can do to change that. What you need to be worried about is WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) which will reduce your SS benefits if you get a pension from non-covered employment. It can cut your benefit by up to 50% depending on how many years of substantial earnings you have under Social Security. Look into this NOW rather than being surprised later!!
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Aurora Lacasse
•This is good information about WEP, but just to clarify - WEP reduction is capped at about $534 per month for 2025 (not a 50% reduction for most people). And if you have 30+ years of substantial earnings under Social Security, WEP doesn't apply at all. The reduction is most severe if you have fewer than 20 years of substantial covered earnings.
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Nora Bennett
•Oh wow, I had no idea about WEP! So even though I have 15 years of SS-covered work, my future SS benefits could still be reduced? That seems really unfair.
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Aurora Lacasse
To directly answer your question: yes, non-covered employment will show as $0 on your earnings record, and no, SSA cannot and will not change this to show your actual earnings. These records are specifically for tracking Social Security-covered earnings. Since you have 15 years of covered employment and are now in a position with a government pension, you should be aware of two important provisions: 1. Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) - This may reduce your Social Security retirement benefit because you'll receive a pension from non-covered work. 2. Government Pension Offset (GPO) - This could affect any potential Social Security spousal or survivor benefits you might be eligible for. I recommend requesting a WEP calculation from SSA when you're closer to retirement age to understand exactly how your benefits will be affected.
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Nora Bennett
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. Is there a way to estimate how much my SS benefits might be reduced under WEP with my current work history? I'm trying to plan for retirement and this is throwing me off.
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Anthony Young
Have u tried calling SSA directly? I spent THREE DAYS trying to get thru to someone on the phone about my earnings record but kept getting disconnected or wait times of 2+ hours. Super frustrating!
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Charlotte White
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Anthony Young
•thanks for the tip! never heard of that before. might try it tomorrow.
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Admin_Masters
My brother went through this same thing with his university job that didn't pay into SS. The zeros are correct and there's nothing wrong with your record. Just keep all your pay stubs and W-2s from these years for your pension calculation later. That's what really matters for that work.
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Ryan Andre
I wanted to add - while those zero years won't affect your eligibility for Social Security benefits (as long as you have 40 quarters/10 years of covered work elsewhere in your career), they can affect your benefit AMOUNT. Social Security calculates your benefit based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. If you don't have 35 years of covered employment, zeros will be used to fill in the missing years, which can lower your benefit calculation. Just something to be aware of for retirement planning.
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Nora Bennett
•That's really helpful information. So I might want to work extra years under covered employment later to replace some of those zeros in my top 35? I didn't realize how complicated this system would be.
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Daniel Washington
I went through EXACTLY this when I retired last year. State university professor for 22 years (non-SS job) and 13 years in private sector (SS covered). They hit me with BOTH WEP and GPO. My SS retirement benefit got cut by almost $400/month because of WEP, and my wife can't even get spousal benefits from my record because of GPO. The whole system is RIGGED against public employees!!!
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Lauren Zeb
•thats so unfair! my cousin works for county government and is worried about the same thing
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Nora Bennett
•I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm definitely going to look more into WEP and GPO so I'm not surprised later. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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