Will my survivor benefits be reduced? Husband received SSDI for only 2 months before passing
I'm about to turn 60 next month and trying to understand survivor benefits. My husband passed away from lung cancer 7 years ago when he was only 57 (I was 53). He had been approved for SSDI about 3 months before he died but only received 2 actual disability payments before passing. I've heard conflicting things about how this might affect my survivor benefits when I apply. Will those disability payments he received somehow reduce what I can get? I don't have enough work credits on my own record (was mostly a stay-at-home mom), so survivor benefits are my only option with Social Security. I'm planning to wait until my full retirement age (67) to maximize the monthly amount. Any insight would be appreciated!
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Lucas Bey
the fact he was on SSDI shouldnt matter at all for your benefits. SSDI converts to retirement benefits at FRA anyway, so its all the same pot of money. what matters is his lifetime earnings record, not that he got disability at the end.
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Charlotte Jones
•Thank you! That's a relief. I was worried they might say the payments he already received would somehow be held against me.
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Harper Thompson
A few important things to know about survivor benefits in your situation: 1. The fact that your husband received SSDI for a short time before passing will NOT reduce your survivor benefits. Those benefits were based on his earned right to disability benefits. 2. Your survivor benefit will be based on your husband's full benefit amount - essentially what he would have received at his full retirement age. 3. Since you're waiting until your full retirement age (67), you'll receive 100% of your husband's benefit amount. 4. You should bring several documents when you apply: your husband's death certificate, your marriage certificate, your birth certificate, your husband's Social Security number, and your Social Security number. 5. You can only apply for survivor benefits by phone or in person, not online. Hope this helps clarify things for your planning!
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Charlotte Jones
•This is extremely helpful! I've been gathering my documents but wasn't sure about the death certificate. Do I need the original or will a certified copy work? And you're sure the SSDI payments won't affect the calculation?
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Caleb Stark
When my dad died my mom went through this same thing!!! She had to wait foreeeever to talk to someone at social security. They kept hanging up on her when she called. So frustrating! Make sure you have aaaaaall your paperwork together because they will make you start over if you forget something!
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Harper Thompson
A certified copy of the death certificate is perfectly fine - they'll make a copy for their records. And yes, I'm certain the SSDI payments won't affect your benefit calculation. The survivor benefit is based on the deceased's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is calculated from lifetime earnings, not based on what benefits were actually paid out before death.
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Charlotte Jones
•Thank you for confirming! I feel much better prepared now.
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Jade O'Malley
THE SSA WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE TRYING TO APPLY! I'm going through this right now with my mother's survivor benefits and it's a NIGHTMARE. Been trying to reach someone for THREE WEEKS! They disconnect you after waiting for hours or tell you to call back another day. It's disgraceful how they treat seniors who are just trying to get what they deserve after paying into the system for decades!!!
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Hunter Edmunds
•same experience here... took me 9 calls over 3 weeks to finally talk to someone. and then they said i was missing documentation! had to start all over again.
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Ella Lewis
I was in almost the exact same situation last year. My husband had been on SSDI for about 4 months before he passed, and I was worried about how it would affect my survivor benefits. I tried calling SSA for weeks but couldn't get through - kept getting disconnected or told to call back later. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending days trying. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I got through, the agent confirmed that my husband's short time on SSDI had no negative impact on my survivor benefits. They're calculated based on his earnings record as if he had reached full retirement age, regardless of the disability payments he received. Hope this helps ease your mind!
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Charlotte Jones
•Thank you so much for sharing this! I'll definitely check out that service if I have trouble getting through. And it's reassuring to hear from someone who went through this same situation.
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Jade O'Malley
•Does that service actually work? I'm desperate at this point!
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Ella Lewis
•@profile5 Yes, it worked for me. I was skeptical too but was at my wit's end after trying for weeks to reach someone. The service connected me to an actual SSA rep pretty quickly.
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Andrew Pinnock
There's an important distinction to understand here. The SSA calculates survivor benefits based on the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) of the deceased worker, which is determined by their lifetime earnings record. The fact that your husband received SSDI for a short period before passing is irrelevant to this calculation. However, there's one special provision that might actually work in your favor. When someone dies while receiving SSDI, the SSA will often recalculate the PIA using a special "Disability Freeze" method that can result in higher benefits by excluding periods of low or no earnings due to disability from the calculation. Since you're waiting until your full retirement age to claim, you'll receive 100% of his benefit amount. This is typically the smartest approach unless you have immediate financial needs or health concerns that might affect your longevity. One more thing to be aware of: survivor benefits are paid one month behind. So if your FRA is in June, for example, you'd receive your first payment in July.
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Charlotte Jones
•I had no idea about the "Disability Freeze" provision - that's really interesting and potentially helpful. Do I need to specifically ask about that when I apply, or will they automatically consider it?
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Andrew Pinnock
•They should consider it automatically since your husband was receiving SSDI at the time of his death, but it never hurts to specifically mention it and ask if they've applied the disability freeze calculation to your case. Sometimes different SSA representatives have varying levels of expertise with these specialized provisions.
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Hunter Edmunds
my aunt got widows benefits and they messed up her payments like 3 times before getting it right. make sure u check every statement they send u!
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Caleb Stark
I'm confused about something... if her husband was only 57 when he died, and she's turning 60 next month, and she says it was 7 years ago... something doesn't add up with the math?? Wouldn't he have been 50 when he died if she was 53 then and is turning 60 now?
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Charlotte Jones
•You're right - I made a mistake in my original post. My husband was 50 when he passed (not 57), and I was 53. It's been 7 years, and I'm turning 60 next month. Sorry for the confusion!
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Lucas Bey
btw you dont have to wait til 67 if you dont want to. you can take reduced benefits at 60 if you need the money now. its like 70% of the full amount i think
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Harper Thompson
•That's correct. Survivor benefits can be taken as early as age 60 at a reduced rate (about 71.5% of the full benefit). Each month you wait after 60 increases the percentage until you reach 100% at your full retirement age. It's a personal decision based on financial needs and other factors.
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