Social Security survivor benefits - Should I wait until FRA or can I return husband's disability payment?
My husband passed away last month at age 64 after receiving just one SSDI payment. I'm currently 62 and trying to figure out the best strategy for survivor benefits. The SSA representative I spoke with wasn't very clear about my options. I know there's a significant increase in the benefit amount if I wait until my full retirement age (67) to claim, but I'm confused about what to do with his disability payment. Can I return that money and wait until I'm 67 to get his full retirement benefit? Or does the 12-month withdrawal rule not apply in this situation since he was on disability and now I'd be claiming survivor benefits? I've heard conflicting things about whether returning his disability payment would affect what I could receive. Any insights from those who've navigated survivor benefits after disability would be really helpful. I'm trying to make the best long-term decision.
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CosmicCrusader
I'm very sorry for your loss. Let me try to help with your survivor benefits questions. First, the increase from taking survivor benefits at 62 versus waiting until your FRA at 67 is significant - approximately 28.5%. At 62, you'd receive about 71.5% of your husband's benefit amount. At your FRA, you'd receive 100%. Regarding the disability payment - you actually can't and don't need to "return" it. Your husband was entitled to that payment, and it doesn't affect your survivor benefits. The withdrawal rule applies to retirement applications, not to disability benefits or survivor claims. What you might want to consider is a strategy where you take your own reduced retirement benefit now and switch to the higher survivor benefit at your FRA. Or vice versa if your own benefit will eventually be higher.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you for the clear explanation. So if I understand correctly, that one disability payment my husband received is separate from what I'm entitled to as a survivor, and I don't need to worry about returning it? The 28.5% increase for waiting until 67 sounds substantial. Do you know if there's any advantage to applying for survivor benefits now but suspending them until FRA? I'm still working part-time but could use some additional income.
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Chloe Robinson
OMG I went through almost the EXACT same situation when my husband died after getting disability!!! The SSA people told me THREE different things on three different calls!! It was SO frustrating trying to figure out what to do. I ended up keeping his disability payment (it was in our joint account anyway) and then applied for survivor benefits. I was 60 when he passed so I got a reduced amount. I wish I could've waited longer but I needed the money. Just warning you that the wait times to talk to SSA right now are HORRIBLE. I spent like 6 hours on hold total just trying to get answers. Good luck!!
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Omar Zaki
•It's somewhat comforting (though frustrating) to hear someone else had similar issues with getting consistent answers. Did you find any particular strategy that helped when calling SSA? I've already wasted hours trying to get through and then got rushed answers.
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Diego Flores
After dealing with similar SSA phone frustrations when my mom passed, I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours or getting disconnected. It basically holds your place in line. Saved me so much stress when dealing with my mom's survivor benefits issues! They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU that shows how it works. Made the whole process way less painful during an already difficult time.
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Anastasia Kozlov
•does this actually work?? i tried calling ssa like 5 times last month and either got disconnected or waited forever!! might try this if i have to call again
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Sean Flanagan
To directly answer your questions: 1. The benefit increase from waiting until 67 (your FRA) would be approximately 28.5% more than claiming at 62. At 62, you receive 71.5% of your husband's benefit amount, while at FRA you receive 100%. 2. You cannot return your husband's disability payment, nor do you need to. That payment was correctly issued to him and has no impact on your survivor benefits. 3. The 12-month withdrawal option doesn't apply in this situation. That rule is for retirement benefit applications, not disability or survivor benefits. One strategy to consider: If your own retirement benefit at 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit at FRA, you could take the reduced survivor benefit now and switch to your own benefit later. Conversely, you could take your reduced retirement benefit now and switch to the full survivor benefit at your FRA. I recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to review these options, as they can calculate the exact amounts for different claiming ages based on both your earnings records.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you for the detailed information. This clarifies a lot. I think I'll need to schedule that appointment with SSA to get the exact calculations. My work history has been somewhat sporadic, so I'm not sure how my own benefit would compare to the survivor benefit.
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Zara Mirza
Just want to say my condolences for your loss. When my wife passed I was so confused about all the SS rules too. Take your time making this decision, there's no rush even though SSA might make you feel that way.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you for the kind words. It does feel overwhelming trying to make these decisions while grieving.
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NebulaNinja
the social security rules r so complicated!! when my dad died my mom just took the benefits right away at 60 cuz we needed the money. nobody told her about waiting for more $$ later. the whole system is designed to confuse people if u ask me
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CosmicCrusader
•You're right that the system can be very confusing. That's why it's so important for people to get accurate information before making these decisions. Unfortunately, immediate financial needs often do force people to claim earlier, even when waiting would provide more lifetime benefits.
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Chloe Robinson
One thing no one mentioned yet - there's a one-time death benefit of $255 from Social Security you can claim!! It's not much but it's something. You have to call them to get it, they don't automatically send it.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you for mentioning this. I did actually apply for that small death benefit when I first notified them of his passing. You're right that it's not much, but every little bit helps right now.
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Anastasia Kozlov
my aunt was in kinda the same boat last year and she said waiting till FRA was worth it for her. the monthly difference was like $700 more! but she had savings to live on while waiting. if u need $ now there's no shame in taking benefits early
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CosmicCrusader
Since you mentioned you're working part-time, be aware of the earnings test if you claim survivor benefits before your FRA. In 2025, if you earn more than $22,320, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. This could significantly reduce or eliminate your survivor benefits temporarily if your income is high enough. The earnings test no longer applies once you reach your FRA. This is another factor to consider in your claiming strategy.
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Omar Zaki
•I didn't know about this earnings test! My part-time job pays about $25,000 annually, so I would be slightly above that threshold. Would it be better then to just wait until I'm closer to retiring completely before applying for survivor benefits? Or would I still get some partial payment even with the reduction?
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Sean Flanagan
Based on your work income of $25,000, here's how the earnings test would affect you: $25,000 - $22,320 = $2,680 above the limit $2,680 ÷ 2 = $1,340 in benefits would be withheld annually If your monthly survivor benefit at 62 would be, for example, $1,500 ($18,000 annually), you'd still receive $16,660 in benefits for the year, or about $1,388 monthly after the reduction. The money that's withheld isn't lost forever - once you reach FRA, your benefit will be recalculated to credit you for the months benefits were reduced or withheld. Given your specific situation, I'd recommend getting a detailed benefit calculation from SSA for these scenarios: 1. Taking survivor benefits now while working 2. Waiting until you stop working to take survivor benefits 3. Waiting until your FRA to maximize the survivor benefit This will help you make an informed decision based on your exact benefit amounts.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. I'll definitely request these calculations from SSA. It sounds like I'd still receive most of the survivor benefit even with the earnings test reduction, which is good to know.
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Diego Flores
Just to add an important point - when you go in for your appointment, ask them to calculate what's called your "RIB-LIM" amount. This is a special calculation that applies in cases where your spouse was on disability benefits. In some situations, it can affect the amount of survivor benefits you're eligible for. Many SSA reps don't automatically check this, so you want to specifically ask for this calculation.
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Zara Mirza
•Yes! This RIB-LIM thing is real. When my neighbor's husband died after being on disability for years, they initially calculated her benefit wrong and she got less than she should have. She had to specifically mention this RIB-LIM rule before they fixed it.
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Omar Zaki
Thank you all for the helpful advice! I've scheduled an appointment with SSA for next week, and I've made a list of all the questions to ask based on your suggestions - especially about the earnings test and that RIB-LIM calculation. For now, I'm leaning toward taking reduced survivor benefits even with the earnings test reduction, since I could still receive around $1,388 monthly according to the calculations provided. That would help me a lot financially while I'm still working part-time. I'll update after my appointment in case the information helps someone else in a similar situation.
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Chloe Robinson
•Good luck with your appointment! Hope they're more helpful than some of the reps I dealt with. Definitely write down EVERYTHING they tell you and get the name of who you spoke with. I learned that the hard way!
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