Will Social Security estimator assume I'm working until FRA even if I retire early?
I'm confused about how the SS benefit estimator works when planning for early retirement. I'm 58 and thinking about retiring at 63, before my Full Retirement Age of 67. When I put that earlier retirement date into the SSA estimator tool, does it assume I'll continue working and earning my current salary until 67 (my FRA)? Or does it correctly calculate based on me stopping work at 63 with $0 earnings after that? The estimated benefit seems higher than I expected, which makes me think it's assuming I'll keep working even though I specified an early retirement date. Anyone understand how the calculator actually works?
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Edison Estevez
No, the estimator doesn't work that way! When you enter a retirement date before your FRA, it definitely does NOT assume you keep working until 67. It calculates your benefits based on what you've earned so far PLUS what you would earn if you continue working at roughly your current salary level UNTIL the early retirement date you specified (age 63 in your case). After that, it assumes zero earnings. The reduction in benefits you're seeing is just from taking it early - you lose about 5/9 of 1% for each month before your FRA (up to 36 months early) and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month beyond that.
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Jibriel Kohn
•Thanks for clarifying! So if the estimate seems higher than expected, it might be because it's assuming I maintain my current salary until 63? I was thinking it might just use my earnings history up to now (age 58) without projecting any future earnings. That would explain why the number looks better than I thought.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
The SSA calculator has different settings that might be confusing you. The Quick Calculator assumes you'll continue earning at your current level until the retirement age you select. The Detailed Calculator and Online Calculator have more options where you can specify future earnings yourself. If you want a truly accurate estimate based on stopping work at 63, you should use your my Social Security account and adjust your future earnings to $0 for the years after you plan to stop working. This will give you the most accurate picture of your reduced benefit amount.
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Jibriel Kohn
•Oh! That explains everything. I was using the Quick Calculator. I'll try the more detailed one through my SSA account. I need to be really precise with these numbers for my retirement planning.
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James Johnson
this literally confused me sooo much too when i was helping my dad figure out his ss benefits last year!! the number kept changing depending on which calculator we used. totally frustrating. we finally just went to the local ssa office and talked to someone in person who explained it all
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Sophia Rodriguez
•I tried going to my local office too but the wait was almost 3 hours!! Ended up leaving without seeing anyone. Called the 800 number and got disconnected twice. The whole system is broken if you ask me. 😡
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Mia Green
I actually worked with a financial advisor who explained this to me. The SSA calculators are using your earnings record to date, then projecting forward based on your recent average earnings until the age you specify for retirement. At that point, it assumes $0 earnings going forward. One thing people miss though - even if you stop working at 63, you could still choose to DELAY CLAIMING until later (even up to 70) which would increase your benefit amount. Working and claiming are two separate decisions. Working longer adds to your earnings record, while delaying claiming increases your benefit percentage regardless of whether you're working.
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Jibriel Kohn
•That's another good point I hadn't considered - separating the retirement date from the claiming date. So theoretically I could stop working at 63 but not claim until 67 to get my full benefit amount. Though financially I'm not sure I could swing 4 years with no income.
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Emma Bianchi
Haha I spent HOURS on this exact same thing last month! My take: the SSA site is confusing, the calculators are confusing, and nobody speaks plain English about it. For what it's worth, when I finally got a straight answer, it was exactly what the first response said - the basic calculator assumes your current income continues until whatever age you put in. If you want something more accurate, you need to use the detailed one and put in zeros for future years.
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Jibriel Kohn
•Thanks, it's weirdly comforting to know I'm not the only one confused by this! I'll definitely use the detailed calculator and manually set my earnings to zero after age 63.
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Lucas Kowalski
The SSA website calculators are frustrating to use with all these hidden assumptions! I got fed up with trying to reach someone at SSA about this exact issue - was on hold for over 2 hours! Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual person at SSA in under 20 minutes. They have this system that basically calls SSA for you and alerts you when an agent is on the line. Their video demo shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent I spoke with explained exactly how the calculations work and helped me input the correct future earnings estimates for my specific situation.
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Emma Bianchi
•Never heard of this service before but just bookmarked it. I spent over 3 hours on hold last time I called SSA and still didn't get through! Definitely worth looking into for next time.
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James Johnson
btw has anyone noticed the calculators are wildly different sometimes?? the quick one told me one number and the detailed one was like $300 less per month! made me paranoid about which one is right lol
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Edison Estevez
•That's because the quick calculator makes more general assumptions about your earnings history. The detailed calculator is using your actual earnings record as recorded by SSA, which is almost always more accurate. Always trust the numbers from your my Social Security account or the detailed calculator over the quick one.
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Mia Green
Another important factor to consider is that your benefit amount is based on your highest 35 years of earnings (adjusted for inflation). If you stop working at 63 but don't have 35 years of earnings, the SSA will use zeros for the missing years when calculating your benefit. This can significantly reduce your monthly payment. Make sure you have a complete earnings record of 35 years before deciding to retire early.
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Jibriel Kohn
•That's a crucial point I hadn't considered. I started working at 22, so by 63 I'd have 41 years of work. But some of those early years had very low earnings, so working longer would actually replace those low-earning years with higher ones. Definitely something to factor into my decision.
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