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Miranda Singer

Social Security benefit calculator confusion - does it assume continued earnings until FRA?

I'm 63 and trying to understand how the SSA calculator works when estimating future benefits. When I look at my estimated benefits online, I'm confused about what assumptions it's making. Does the calculator automatically assume I'll keep working at my current income level ($68,500/year) until my full retirement age? I noticed when I manually change future earnings to zero, my estimated monthly benefit drops by about $270. Is this correct or am I missing something? I'm trying to decide if I can afford to stop working before my FRA but these different numbers are really throwing me off.

Cass Green

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Yes, the SSA benefit calculator does assume you'll continue earning at roughly the same level until you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA). This is their default calculation method. When you input zeros for future earnings, you're seeing the accurate reduction that would occur if you stopped working now. Your Social Security retirement benefit is calculated based on your 35 highest-earning years, so if you stop working before FRA and have some lower-earning years or zeros in your 35-year calculation, it can definitely reduce your monthly benefit amount.

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Thank you for explaining! So if the calculator shows I'd get $2,100/month assuming I work until FRA, but only $1,830/month if I stop working now at 63, I should trust that second number as my actual benefit if I retire now?

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i had the SAME EXACT question last yr!! the ssa website is so confusing omg. but yah they assume u keep making the same $ until whenever u say ur gonna retire. messed me up 2 when planning

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Madison Tipne

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The SSA benefit estimator makes several assumptions that aren't always clear: 1. It assumes you'll continue earning at your recent average until you reach FRA 2. It assumes you'll work the entire year in the current year 3. It applies COLA increases based on their formulas When you manually zero out future earnings, you're getting a more accurate picture of what you'd receive if you stopped working today. This is because Social Security calculates your benefit using the 35 highest-earning years of your work history, adjusted for inflation. If you have fewer than 35 years of earnings, zeros are factored in, which lowers your benefit amount. If you're seriously considering stopping work before FRA, I'd recommend requesting your detailed earnings history from SSA and perhaps consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning. The difference in monthly benefits can add up to tens of thousands over a retirement lifetime.

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This is really helpful - I didn't realize they were making all those assumptions! I don't think I have a full 35 years at high earnings levels, so that probably explains the drop when I put in zeros. I'll definitely look at getting my detailed earnings history.

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I ran into this exact issue last year! The numbers on the SSA site kept changing and it was driving me nuts. My brother-in-law works at H&R Block and he explained that the calculator assumes you'll keep earning what you've earned on average the last few years until you hit retirement age. It's honestly pretty misleading if you ask me!

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Malia Ponder

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I thought the same thing and was shocked when my actual benefit was less than expected! They should make this clearer on their website. So frustrating.

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Kyle Wallace

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I actually called the SSA about this exact question when I was planning my retirement. Spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to someone. Nothing but busy signals and disconnects after waiting on hold forever. Finally I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a real person at SSA in under 20 minutes. The agent explained that yes, the calculator assumes continued earnings at your current level until whatever retirement age you select. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Worth it to get a real person to explain your specific situation because the online calculators really don't make their assumptions clear.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks with no luck. I'll check that service out - I really need to speak with someone who can look at my specific situation.

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does that actually work?? i tried calling ssa like 5 times last month and gave up!

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Kyle Wallace

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It worked for me! Got through to an agent who was able to pull up my record and explain exactly how my benefit would change if I stopped working at 63 vs. 65 vs. my FRA. Made my decision much easier when I had the real numbers.

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Ryder Ross

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The earnings estimates are TOTALLY MANIPULATED by the government to trick us into working longer!!! They want us to keep paying into the system and not taking benefits as long as possible. That's why they make the numbers look higher if you keep working. The whole system is rigged against early retirement. My cousin worked at SSA for 15 years and told me all about how they manipulate the numbers to discourage people from claiming early!!!

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Madison Tipne

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This isn't accurate. The benefit calculations simply reflect how Social Security was designed to work - it's based on your 35 highest-earning years. There's no manipulation happening. The formula is publicly available and has remained consistent for decades. If you stop working before having 35 years of earnings, or if your early career earnings were lower, then stopping work early will indeed result in a lower benefit. This is just math, not a conspiracy.

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Cass Green

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To add to my earlier comment, there's another factor to consider: when you input zero for future earnings, the calculator is showing you what your benefit would be if you filed for benefits RIGHT NOW at your current age (63). If you plan to stop working now but delay filing until your FRA, your benefit would be higher than what the calculator shows with zeros. This is because while you wouldn't be adding more earnings, you'd get the delayed retirement credits by waiting to file. The SSA calculator doesn't handle this scenario well - it assumes you start benefits when you stop working unless you specifically indicate otherwise. For the most accurate estimate, you might want to use the detailed calculator on the SSA website rather than the quick calculator.

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That's a REALLY important distinction I hadn't considered! So I could stop working now at 63, wait until my FRA at 67 to claim, and get a higher amount than what shows when I put in zeros? I definitely need to look at that detailed calculator.

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Paolo Rizzo

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@Miranda Singer Yes, exactly! If you stop working at 63 but wait until your FRA at 67 to claim benefits, you d'avoid the early retirement reduction penalty which (can be up to 25-30% if you claim at 62-63 .)The benefit amount would be based on your earnings history up to age 63, but you d'get the full unreduced benefit by waiting until 67. This could be a sweet spot if you can afford to bridge those 4 years without Social Security income. Just make sure you factor in healthcare costs if you lose employer insurance!

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Malia Ponder

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My husband had the same problem with the calculator last year. We just gave up and went to the local SSA office in person.

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Liv Park

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I was planning my retirement at 64. The SSA calculator definitely assumes you'll keep earning at your current level until whatever retirement age you select - it's like their default setting. What really helped me was creating a spreadsheet with different scenarios: stopping work now vs. working part-time vs. full-time until FRA. The $270 difference you're seeing is likely accurate if you stop working completely. That's because Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings, so if you have some lower-earning years early in your career, continuing to work at $68,500 would replace those lower years in the calculation. One thing to also consider is that if you stop working now but can afford to wait until your FRA to actually claim benefits, you'd get a higher amount than what the calculator shows when you put zeros in. The calculator often assumes you're claiming benefits when you stop working, but you can stop working and delay claiming to avoid the early retirement penalty.

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Yuki Ito

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! Creating a spreadsheet with different scenarios sounds like a smart approach. I think I've been getting overwhelmed by all the different numbers, but breaking it down scenario by scenario makes sense. And you're absolutely right about the timing - I keep forgetting that stopping work and claiming benefits don't have to happen at the same time. I could potentially stop working now and then wait until 67 to claim, which would give me the full benefit without the early retirement reduction. Thanks for laying it out so clearly!

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Dmitry Petrov

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! I'm 62 and was completely confused by the different benefit estimates I was seeing. What really helped me understand it was realizing that the SSA calculator is basically doing two different calculations: 1. When it assumes continued earnings: It's projecting that you'll keep earning $68,500 until your FRA, which might replace some of your lower-earning years from earlier in your career in that "highest 35 years" calculation. 2. When you put in zeros: It's showing what your benefit would be based on your earnings history as it stands today, with no additional high-earning years to boost the average. The $270 difference you're seeing is probably real - that's potentially $3,240 per year or about $97,000 over a 30-year retirement. But like others mentioned, you don't have to claim benefits the moment you stop working. If you can bridge the gap financially, stopping work at 63 but waiting until 67 to claim could give you a much better outcome than claiming early. I ended up scheduling an appointment at my local SSA office because I wanted someone to walk through my specific numbers with me. Sometimes having a real person explain it makes all the difference!

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Cynthia Love

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This breakdown is really helpful! I hadn't thought about the long-term impact - $97,000 over 30 years is definitely significant. I think I need to sit down and really crunch the numbers on whether I can afford to bridge those 4 years from 63 to 67 without Social Security income. The idea of stopping work but waiting to claim is starting to make more sense as a potential middle ground. Did you end up going with that approach, or did the SSA office visit change your plans?

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Royal_GM_Mark

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I'm going through this exact same confusion right now at 64! What's been helpful for me is understanding that the SSA calculator is basically showing you two different scenarios - one where you keep contributing to your "highest 35 years" calculation, and one where you don't. The key thing I learned is that Social Security benefits are based on your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME) from your 35 highest-earning years. If you haven't had 35 full years of substantial earnings, or if some of your early career years were at much lower wages, then continuing to work at $68,500 could potentially replace those lower-earning years in the calculation. That $270/month difference ($3,240 annually) is significant, but remember - you have options beyond just "work until FRA" or "stop working and claim now." You could stop working at 63, preserve your health and enjoy some freedom, but delay claiming until your FRA to avoid the early retirement reduction. This way you'd get the full benefit based on your current earnings history without the penalty for claiming early. I'd suggest looking at your Social Security Statement to see your year-by-year earnings history. That'll help you understand whether continuing to work would actually replace some lower-earning years or if you've already maximized your benefit calculation.

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This is such great advice! I never thought to look at my actual Social Security Statement to see my year-by-year earnings - that would definitely help me understand if continuing to work would actually boost my calculation or not. I'm realizing I've been looking at this as an all-or-nothing decision when there are actually more nuanced options available. The idea of stopping work but delaying my claim until FRA is really appealing, especially since you put it in terms of preserving health and enjoying some freedom. That $270 monthly difference is substantial, but if I can swing the financial bridge period, getting the unreduced benefit at 67 while having those extra years of not working sounds like it could be worth exploring. Thanks for breaking down the AIME concept too - I had heard that term but didn't really understand how it worked!

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I'm new to this community but facing the exact same confusion! At 64, I've been staring at those SSA calculator numbers for weeks trying to figure out what they actually mean. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially learning that stopping work and claiming benefits don't have to happen simultaneously. What strikes me most is how poorly the SSA website explains their assumptions. It really should be more transparent that the calculator defaults to assuming continued earnings until your selected retirement age. That seems like pretty critical information that shouldn't be buried or left for people to discover through trial and error. I'm definitely going to pull my detailed earnings statement now to see if continuing to work would actually replace lower-earning years or not. And the idea of creating a spreadsheet with different scenarios sounds like a smart approach to cut through all the confusion. Has anyone here actually gone the route of stopping work early but delaying their claim until FRA? I'd be curious to hear how that worked out in practice - both financially and in terms of quality of life during those bridge years.

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Sofia Torres

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right that the SSA website could be much clearer about their assumptions - it's frustrating how many of us have had to figure this out through trial and error. I actually did go the route of stopping work at 63 but waiting until my FRA at 67 to claim benefits. It was one of the best decisions I made! Those four years gave me time to focus on my health, spend more time with family, and pursue some hobbies I'd put off for decades. Financially, I had to be careful - I used a combination of savings and took on some very part-time consulting work (staying under the earnings limit). The key was having a solid plan for health insurance since I lost my employer coverage. The peace of mind knowing I'd get my full unreduced benefit at 67 was worth the financial juggling during those bridge years. My monthly benefit ended up being about $2,400 instead of the $1,850 I would have gotten if I'd claimed at 63. Over a 20+ year retirement, that extra $550/month really adds up. Plus, I felt so much healthier and less stressed during those four years off - honestly priceless!

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QuantumQuasar

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I'm 65 and went through this exact same confusion two years ago! The SSA calculator really is misleading about its assumptions. What helped me the most was calling and speaking to an actual SSA representative who walked through my specific situation. Here's what I learned that might help you: that $270 monthly difference you're seeing is likely accurate, but there's a third option you might not have considered. You could stop working now at 63, but delay filing for benefits until your Full Retirement Age at 67. This way you'd avoid the early retirement penalty (which can reduce benefits by 20-25% if you claim at 63) while not adding any more earnings years. The catch is you'd need to support yourself for those 4 years without Social Security income, but if you can manage it financially, you'd get your full unreduced benefit based on your current earnings history. In my case, I worked part-time just enough to cover basic expenses and used some savings - it was actually a really nice transition into full retirement. Also, definitely request your complete earnings record from SSA. It'll show you exactly which years might be replaced if you continue working. In my case, I had some very low-earning years from the 1980s that would have been replaced by continuing to work, but the math still worked out better to stop early and delay claiming.

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This is such valuable insight, thank you! I'm really intrigued by your approach of working part-time during those bridge years - that sounds like it could be a perfect compromise. Can I ask how you determined what the "earnings limit" was for part-time work during that period? I'd love to understand more about how much you could earn without it affecting your future benefits. The idea of having a gradual transition rather than going from full-time work straight to full retirement is really appealing. Also, when you say the math worked out better even with those low-earning 1980s years potentially being replaced - was that mainly because avoiding the early retirement penalty outweighed the benefit of those additional high-earning years?

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Ravi Kapoor

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I'm dealing with this same issue at 62 and it's been driving me crazy! The SSA calculator definitely assumes you'll keep earning at your current level until whatever retirement age you select - I had to figure this out through trial and error too. What really helped me understand the numbers was realizing that when you put in zeros for future earnings, you're seeing what your benefit would be based on your actual earnings history up to now. The calculator doesn't make it clear that this is probably assuming you'd claim benefits immediately at 63 rather than stopping work but waiting to claim. I ended up meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning, and she explained that I have three main options: 1) Keep working until FRA and get the higher benefit, 2) Stop working and claim now with the reduced amount, or 3) Stop working now but delay claiming until FRA to get the full unreduced benefit. That third option is what I'm leaning toward - it means bridging 5 years without Social Security income, but avoiding both the early retirement penalty AND the stress of continuing to work when I'm ready to be done. The key is making sure I can afford those bridge years and have a solid health insurance plan. Have you looked into what your benefit would be if you stopped working at 63 but waited until 67 to claim? That might give you a clearer picture of your real options.

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