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Jamal Carter

Will RMDs from inherited IRA count against Social Security earnings limit if taking survivor benefits at 62?

Hi everyone - I'm thinking about my retirement timing and considering taking my survivor benefits early (maybe at 62 or 63) while possibly continuing some part-time work. I inherited an IRA from my brother last year and I'm trying to figure out if the Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) from this inherited IRA would count toward the Social Security earnings limit? I know there's a cap on how much you can earn while collecting early SS benefits, but I'm not sure if RMDs are considered "earned income" for this purpose. Really appreciate any insights from those who might have dealt with this situation!

Mei Liu

Good news! RMDs from an inherited IRA are NOT considered earned income for Social Security purposes. The earnings test only counts wages from employment or net earnings from self-employment. Investment income, including RMDs, interest, dividends, and capital gains are all exempt from the earnings test calculation. So you can receive those RMDs without worrying about them affecting your survivor benefits. However, if you're still working part-time, those wages WILL count toward the annual earnings limit ($21,240 in 2025 if you're under full retirement age for the full year).

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That's such a relief to hear! Thank you for confirming. I was worried I might accidentally go over the earnings limit because of these distributions. I'll still need to be careful with my part-time work hours, but at least the RMDs won't be a factor.

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I had EXACTLY this situation last year! RMDs from inherited accounts DON'T count for the earnings test, but they absolutely DO count for determining if your Social Security benefits are taxable. Up to 85% of your SS can be taxed depending on your "combined income" (AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits). The RMDs pushed me over a threshold and I ended up paying tax on 85% of my benefits which I wasn't expecting!!

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Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out about the taxation! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. Definitely something I need to consider in my planning. Did you find any strategies to minimize the tax impact?

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my mother inlaw takes survivors and has an inherited ira... the rmd doesn't count for the earnings test but she still has to be careful with her part time job at the library. went over by $340 last year and they took back $170 in benefits! make sure you track your earnings carefully if you work

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This is an important point! The Social Security Administration withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the annual limit. And it's based on gross wages, not net after taxes. Many people don't realize they need to count bonuses, vacation pay, commissions, etc. Your mother-in-law's experience is unfortunately common.

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I'm going to disagree with some of the other posters. I THINK all income counts toward the limit!!! My neighbor took early retirement at 63 and lost benefits because of his IRA. The SSA doesn't distinguish between different types of income! Be VERY CAREFUL or you might have to pay back benefits!!!!

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Mei Liu

I understand the confusion, but this information isn't accurate. The Social Security earnings test specifically only counts earned income (wages/self-employment). Your neighbor might have been affected by the taxation of benefits (which does consider IRAs), but not the earnings test. You can verify this on the SSA website: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/rtea.html which explicitly defines what counts as earnings.

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To clarify for everyone: RMDs from inherited IRAs are considered UNEARNED income, so they don't count toward the earnings test limit (which only applies to wages and self-employment income). However, they DO count for determining whether your Social Security benefits are taxable. Also, remember that in the year you reach Full Retirement Age (FRA), the earnings limit is much higher ($56,520 in 2025), and only earnings before the month you reach FRA count. After FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.

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Thanks for explaining this so clearly. I've been trying to decide whether to wait until my FRA (which is 67) or take benefits early. The survivor benefit calculation is confusing me though - is it true that survivor benefits don't increase after my FRA like my own retirement benefit would?

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I've been dealing with this exact situation and spent HOURS on the phone with Social Security trying to get answers. You might find this helpful - I tried for THREE DAYS to reach someone at SSA who could answer my questions about inherited IRAs and survivors benefits. Always got the dreaded busy signal or disconnected. Finally, I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me through to an agent in under 30 minutes! They have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The SSA agent confirmed that RMDs don't count for the earnings limit, but do affect taxation. Saved me so much frustration after days of trying to call on my own.

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does this actually work? i tried calling ssa about my husbands disability claim last month and couldn't get through at all... kept getting disconnected

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Yes, it absolutely worked for me! I was skeptical too after so many failed attempts on my own. The service connected me directly to an SSA agent who answered all my RMD questions. My friend also used it for her disability review and got through within 20 minutes. So much better than calling for days with no response.

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Here's another important consideration - if you're planning to take survivor benefits early and then switch to your own retirement benefits later (which can be a smart strategy), you should really check if the RMDs might push your income high enough to cause more of your SS to be taxed. That could affect whether taking survivor benefits early is actually advantageous.

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That's a great point! I was thinking about taking survivor benefits at 62 and then switching to my own retirement benefit at 70 since mine would be higher by then. I should definitely look at the tax implications of the RMDs over that whole period.

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To add to what others have said: If you're worried about accidentally going over the earnings limit with your part-time work, you can contact SSA and ask them to do a "midyear recalculation" if your earnings will be lower than expected. That way you won't have benefits withheld unnecessarily. I've done this when I reduced my working hours mid-year.

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Excellent advice! Most people don't know about the midyear recalculation option. Also worth noting that if SSA withholds benefits due to excess earnings, you'll receive credit for those months when you reach FRA, potentially increasing your benefit amount slightly.

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Thanks everyone for all this helpful information! I think I understand now that the RMDs won't count against the earnings limit (big relief!), but I need to watch out for: 1. Making sure my part-time work stays under the annual limit 2. Considering how the RMDs might affect the taxation of my Social Security benefits 3. Thinking about whether the survivor-to-retirement benefit switch makes sense with my RMDs I appreciate all the insights and personal experiences shared here. Really helps with this complicated decision!

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good luck! its all so confusing but worth figuring out

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One more thing to consider - since you inherited the IRA from your brother, make sure you're aware of the 10-year rule that applies to most non-spouse beneficiaries. You'll need to empty the entire inherited IRA by December 31st of the 10th year following your brother's death. This might affect your timing strategy for when to take survivor benefits vs. your own retirement benefits, especially if you'll have larger distributions in later years that could push you into higher tax brackets when combined with Social Security. You might want to consider doing some Roth conversions in lower-income years to spread out the tax impact, though that's definitely something to discuss with a tax professional given the complexity with Social Security taxation thresholds.

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Wow, that's a crucial point about the 10-year rule that I hadn't fully considered! My brother passed away in 2024, so I have until 2034 to empty the account. You're absolutely right that this could create some really large distribution years that might push me into higher tax brackets and affect Social Security taxation. I hadn't thought about doing Roth conversions in the lower-income years - that's a really smart strategy. Definitely going to need to sit down with a tax professional to map this all out properly. Thanks for bringing up this important timing consideration!

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar! I took survivor benefits at 62 and had inherited IRAs from both my parents. The RMDs definitely don't count toward the earnings test (which was a huge relief), but they did bump me into the 85% taxation threshold for Social Security benefits sooner than I expected. One strategy that helped me was being very strategic about which years I took larger distributions vs. smaller ones. In years when I had other deductions or lower income, I'd take a bit more from the inherited IRA to smooth out the tax impact over time. Also, since you mentioned part-time work, remember that you can actually earn up to the annual limit without penalty - so if you're under by a few thousand, you could potentially pick up some extra shifts without affecting your benefits. The key is really tracking everything carefully and maybe working with someone who understands both the Social Security rules and the inherited IRA requirements. It's complex but definitely manageable once you understand all the moving pieces!

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This is incredibly helpful to hear from someone who's actually navigated this situation! I really appreciate you sharing your experience with the strategic timing of distributions - that's something I hadn't considered but makes a lot of sense. The idea of taking larger distributions in years with more deductions or lower income is brilliant. I'm definitely going to need to map out my expected income year by year to see how I can best manage this. And good point about being able to earn up to the limit without penalty - I was being overly cautious about staying well under when I could probably work a bit more if needed. Thanks for the practical advice!

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This is such a valuable discussion! As someone new to this community, I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences. I'm in a somewhat similar situation - not quite ready to take benefits yet but trying to understand all the rules for future planning. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned: if you're taking survivor benefits early and have these RMDs that don't count for the earnings test but do affect taxation, how does that interact with Medicare premiums down the road? I know higher income can trigger IRMAA surcharges for Medicare Part B and D premiums. Does anyone have experience with how inherited IRA distributions might affect those calculations when you eventually get on Medicare? I'm wondering if this is another factor to consider in the timing strategy everyone's been discussing - not just the immediate Social Security taxation implications, but also potential future Medicare premium impacts.

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Great question about Medicare IRMAA! Yes, inherited IRA distributions absolutely count toward the Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) that Medicare uses to determine IRMAA surcharges. The lookback period is typically 2 years, so your 2023 income affects your 2025 Medicare premiums. This is definitely another layer to consider in your distribution strategy - especially with that 10-year rule forcing you to empty the inherited IRA by a certain date. You might end up with some years where the RMDs push you into higher IRMAA brackets, which could add hundreds or even thousands to your monthly Medicare premiums. It's worth factoring this into your overall withdrawal strategy, maybe spreading distributions more evenly or timing them around other income sources when possible.

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Welcome to the community! This has been such an educational thread for me too. I'm actually facing a similar decision timeline and hadn't fully grasped how all these pieces fit together until reading everyone's experiences. Your question about Medicare IRMAA is spot-on and something I think many people overlook in their planning. From what I understand, those IRMAA surcharges can really add up - we're talking potentially $2,000+ per year in additional premiums for higher income brackets. Combined with the 10-year inherited IRA rule that forces distributions, it could create some expensive years down the road. It sounds like the key takeaway from this whole discussion is that while RMDs won't hurt you on the Social Security earnings test (which is great!), they create this ripple effect through Social Security taxation and eventually Medicare premiums that requires some serious long-term planning. Has anyone here worked with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security optimization? I'm thinking I might need professional help to model out all these scenarios properly.

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Welcome to both of you! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while, I'm amazed at how much knowledge gets shared here. Your point about fee-only financial planners is really smart - I've been trying to figure all this out on my own but the interactions between Social Security, inherited IRAs, taxation, and Medicare are just so complex. Does anyone have recommendations for planners who really specialize in this area? I'm starting to realize that a few hundred dollars for professional advice could save thousands in the long run, especially with those Medicare IRMAA surcharges you mentioned. The 2-year lookback period for Medicare premiums means decisions I make today about IRA distributions could affect my costs years down the road in ways I might not even anticipate.

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As someone who's been working in retirement planning for over 15 years, I want to echo what many others have said and add a few practical tips. RMDs from inherited IRAs are indeed NOT counted toward the Social Security earnings test - this is unearned income, not wages or self-employment income. However, I'd strongly recommend creating a year-by-year projection that includes: 1. Your expected RMD amounts (which will grow each year) 2. Your Social Security benefit amounts 3. Any other income sources 4. Estimated tax liability including SS taxation thresholds The "combined income" formula for SS taxation is: AGI + nontaxable interest + 50% of SS benefits. Once this hits $25,000 (single) or $32,000 (married filing jointly), up to 50% of benefits are taxable. At $34,000/$44,000, up to 85% becomes taxable. Also consider that with the inherited IRA 10-year rule, you might want to take larger distributions in early years when you have more control, rather than being forced into large distributions later that could push you into higher brackets right when Medicare IRMAA kicks in. Every situation is unique, but having a comprehensive plan that looks at the full picture will serve you much better than trying to optimize each piece separately.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive perspective I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down the combined income formula so clearly - seeing the actual dollar thresholds really helps me understand what I'm working with. The point about taking larger distributions in early years when I have more control is particularly insightful. I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're absolutely right that waiting could force me into much larger distributions later that coincide with Medicare eligibility and potentially create a perfect storm of higher taxes AND higher Medicare premiums. Do you happen to have any rules of thumb for how to balance the desire to take larger early distributions against the immediate impact on Social Security taxation? I'm trying to figure out if it's better to accept some SS taxation now to avoid bigger problems later, or if there are sweet spots to aim for in terms of combined income levels.

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