Successfully applied for survivor benefits despite SSA agent initially denying eligibility
Just had the most stressful but ultimately successful day dealing with Social Security! My husband passed away 7 months ago, and I've been struggling to understand survivor benefits. After researching online and calling the SSA twice (getting different answers each time), I finally went to my local office today feeling prepared with documentation. The first agent I spoke with told me outright I wasn't eligible because I was working full-time and our son is 19 (in college). I almost gave up right there! But thanks to what I'd learned from friends and online research, I politely asked to speak with a technical expert. The supervisor intervened, reviewed my case, and confirmed I AM eligible for mother's benefits until our son turns 22 (since he's a full-time student). They even helped me submit the application! What perfect timing too - my company just announced today they're shutting down operations next month. So grateful I stood my ground instead of walking away. Has anyone else had success challenging an initial denial at the office?
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Grace Patel
Wow congrats! Those intake people can be so wrong sometimes. My sister got told she couldn't get widow benefits at 60 becuz she had a job. Total nonsense! Always ask for supervisor!!
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Charlie Yang
•Thank you! It was so intimidating to challenge them, but I'm glad I did. Did your sister eventually get her benefits approved?
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ApolloJackson
This happens far too often. What you experienced is unfortunately common - frontline SSA employees sometimes lack specialized knowledge about all benefit types. The fact is that survivor benefits can be paid to a surviving parent caring for a child of the deceased worker who is under 16 OR a full-time student up to age 22 (for benefits paid before 1985 or after 2000). Your situation with a 19-year-old college student absolutely qualifies. Some things to remember going forward: 1. Keep documentation of your son's full-time student status each semester 2. Be aware that your earnings may affect benefits due to the earnings test if you're under FRA 3. When your son turns 22, your mother's benefits will end, but you may be eligible for widow's benefits at 60 Glad you advocated for yourself!
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Charlie Yang
•Thank you for confirming this! I was worried maybe I misunderstood something. The agent did mention the earnings test but said it would just reduce the benefit, not eliminate eligibility. I'll definitely keep documentation of my son's student status - do I need to submit that every semester?
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Isabella Russo
THE SAME EXACT THING happened to me last year!!!!! I went in for widow benefits and the lady at the front desk told me I couldn't apply because I was only 58. I knew that wasn't right because I had disabled child. Had to wait TWO HOURS to see a 'specialist' who finally approved it. These people have NO IDEA what they're doing half the time and it's OUR BENEFITS on the line. So frustrating!!!!!
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ApolloJackson
•You're absolutely right that benefits for a disabled adult child can allow a younger widow to qualify. To clarify for others reading: a widow/widower caring for the deceased worker's child who is disabled before age 22 can receive benefits at any age. This is different from regular widow/widower benefits that typically start at 60. It's concerning how many incorrect denials happen at the initial contact point.
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Rajiv Kumar
good 4 u! my cousin had same problem but didnt know to ask for supervisor and left without applying. took her 8 months to figure it out and lost all that money. they should train their people better smh
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Charlie Yang
•That's awful about your cousin! I wonder if she could claim those 8 months of benefits retroactively? I was lucky to have researched beforehand.
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Aria Washington
I'm so happy you persisted! Unfortunately, this is something I see almost daily in my work helping people navigate Social Security. Many front-line staff aren't fully trained on all the nuances of survivor benefits, especially with student status extensions. One important tip: Since your company is shutting down, make sure to report your end of employment to SSA immediately. This could significantly increase your monthly benefit amount if you're under Full Retirement Age, as the earnings test will no longer apply once you're not working. Also, if anyone is struggling to reach SSA by phone to verify eligibility before going to an office, I recently discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a service that gets you through to an actual SSA agent quickly instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. I suggested it to a client who needed to confirm some documents before her office appointment, and she said it saved her hours of frustration.
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Rajiv Kumar
•does that claimyr thing really work? i spent 3 hrs on hold last week and then got disconnected!
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Liam O'Reilly
I'm so confused about all this! My husband died 2 years ago and I haven't applied for anything yet because I work full-time. I have a 17 year old still at home who's finishing high school. Does this mean I could get benefits for him? Or for me too? I thought I had to wait until 60??? Does anyone know if I've missed out on benefits we should have been receiving? Now I'm worried I've left money on the table...
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ApolloJackson
•Yes, you've likely been eligible all this time! Your 17-year-old is entitled to survivor benefits as a child of the deceased worker until age 18 (or 19 if still in high school). And you would qualify for mother's/father's benefits while caring for a child under 16, though that window has passed. However, your child's benefits aren't affected by your work, only your own benefits would be reduced by the earnings test. I strongly recommend contacting SSA immediately, as you may be able to receive up to 6 months of retroactive benefits, though unfortunately not the full 2 years.
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Chloe Delgado
I just wanted to say thanks for sharing this, you never know who might be reading and needs this information. I was hesitant to even apply for anything after my wife passed because our situation is complicated (I have pension from non-covered employment). Hearing success stories helps.
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Charlie Yang
•That's exactly why I posted! And regarding your pension situation - definitely still apply. My friend has a government pension and still qualified for a partial Social Security survivor benefit. It's reduced because of WEP/GPO, but it's not eliminated entirely.
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Grace Patel
The thing that makes me so MAD is how they say no first without even checking!!! its like they WANT to deny us what we deserve and hope we dont know better and just leave! my brother in law got denied disability 3 times and finally got approved after getting a lawyer. the system is rigged against us regular folks
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Isabella Russo
•EXACTLY!!! It's designed to wear us down until we give up! When my husband got disabled it took FOURTEEN MONTHS and TWO appeals before they approved him. And all that time we were struggling to pay bills. Then they act like they're doing you a favor when they finally approve what you deserved all along! The whole system needs to be FIXED.
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Charlie Yang
Update: I called SSA this morning because I realized I forgot to bring my son's school transcript yesterday. The agent I spoke with was actually very helpful and said I can upload it through my mySocialSecurity account instead of making another trip to the office. She also confirmed that yes, I'll need to submit updated enrollment verification each semester. Just wanted to share this tip in case it helps anyone else!
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ApolloJackson
•That's excellent information. Using the mySocialSecurity portal for document uploads is definitely the most efficient method. For student benefits, SSA Form SSA-1372 (Student's Statement Regarding School Attendance) is typically required at the beginning of each academic year, not necessarily each semester. Your school's registrar office should be familiar with completing their portion of this form. Keep digital copies of everything you submit!
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