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Chloe Taylor

Social Security survivor benefits if I remarry - what happens with my late husband's SS vs. new husband's benefits?

I'm currently 51 and receiving survivor benefits from my first husband who passed away 6 years ago. I'm facing a complicated situation with my boyfriend (62) who I've been with for 3 years. We're discussing marriage, but I'm concerned about how it might affect my future Social Security options. I know that if I remarry before 60, I lose access to my late husband's survivor benefits. What's making this tricky is my boyfriend's ex-wife (they've been divorced 8 years) is deliberately staying unmarried to claim on his record when she reaches eligibility age, even though she's living with someone else. My questions: 1. If I marry my boyfriend after I turn 60, can I still claim my late husband's survivor benefits? 2. If my new husband passes away before me (there's an 11-year age gap), would I be eligible for his survivor benefits even if I married him before 60? 3. Would his ex-wife's claim on his record affect what I might receive? My own work history is limited since I was a stay-at-home mom until my husband passed. Both my late husband and current boyfriend have much higher earnings records than mine. I don't want to delay marriage unnecessarily, but also don't want to make a costly mistake with benefits. Any advice appreciated!

You're asking really smart questions here! Let me break this down for you: 1. If you remarry after age 60, you can still claim survivor benefits from your first husband. This is an important cutoff date in SS rules. 2. If you marry your boyfriend before 60 and he later passes away, you would be eligible for survivor benefits on his record as his widow, regardless of when you married him. The "before 60" remarriage rule only applies to collecting from a previous spouse. 3. His ex-wife's potential claim would not impact your survivor benefits if you're married to him when he passes. You would be eligible for 100% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) at your FRA (Full Retirement Age). The ex-spouse would receive ex-spouse benefits (up to 50% while he's alive or 100% survivor benefits if he passes), but this doesn't reduce what you'd receive. Given your limited work history, maximizing spousal/survivor benefits is really important. Think about whether waiting until 60 to remarry makes financial sense in your specific situation.

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Thank you so much for that clear explanation! So to make sure I understand - if I marry him before 60, I'd lose my current survivor benefits from my first husband immediately. But I would still be eligible for survivor benefits from my new husband if he passes away later (even if we marry before I'm 60). Is that correct?

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my sister was in a similar situation!! she remarried at 58 and lost her dead husbands benefits right away. two years later she was kicking herself cause she couldve just waited. its not just the survivors benefit but also the retirement benefit you can get at FRA which might be higher than your own.

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Wait a minute - this isn't entirely accurate. The OP needs to understand the difference between survivor benefits (which she'd lose if remarrying before 60) versus spousal benefits (which have different rules). At her Full Retirement Age, she can claim either her own retirement benefit, 100% of her deceased husband's benefit, OR 50% of her current husband's benefit (if they're married) - whichever is highest. This is why the timing of remarriage can have significant financial implications!

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The SSA makes this SO COMPLICATED on purpose! I spent THREE MONTHS trying to figure out my options after my spouse died and got different answers from every agent!!! They keep changing the rules and the website is impossible to navigate. One thing nobody mentioned yet - even if you DO wait until after 60 to marry, if your boyfriend's benefit amount is substantially higher than your first husband's, it might be better to marry earlier anyway and eventually claim on your new husband's record (either as spouse while he's alive or survivor if he passes). The 60+ remarriage rule only matters if your first husband's benefit is higher. But good luck getting straight answers from SSA directly!!! Their hold times are RIDICULOUS!!!

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This is so true. I waited 3 hours on hold last month trying to ask a question about my widows benefits. After 3 hours they just disconnected me! Like my time isn't valuable or something!

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Having dealt with similar questions with clients, I think it's helpful to run some actual numbers. At your current age (51), if you remarry before 60, you would lose your current survivor benefits immediately, which could mean 9 years of lost benefits. That's substantial. You should calculate: 1. How much are you currently receiving monthly in survivor benefits? 2. Multiply that by 12 months, then by 9 years (assuming you'd otherwise wait until 60) 3. That's your potential "cost" of remarrying early Remember too that taking survivor benefits doesn't prevent you from switching to your own retirement benefit later if it would be higher (or vice versa). Regarding his ex-wife - her benefits as a divorced spouse don't impact yours as a current spouse. Also, she needs to have been married to him for at least 10 years to claim divorced spouse benefits. This is definitely a situation where timing matters significantly. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to discuss your specific situation and run the numbers.

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I tried scheduling with SSA for something similar and they told me it would be a 3 month wait for an appointment! I ended up using Claimyr.com to get through to someone on the phone instead of waiting on hold forever. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me so much frustration! The agent was able to run through different scenarios for me based on different marriage dates.

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Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm going to look closer at the actual benefit amounts before making any decisions. My late husband had a really good income so his benefit amount is substantial. My boyfriend has also had a good career, but I need to find out exactly what the numbers look like in both scenarios. One question I'm still confused about - if my boyfriend's ex-wife is claiming on his record (they were married 12 years), does that reduce what I could potentially get as his spouse/widow?

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No, it doesn't reduce your benefit at all. Social Security benefits don't work like a pool of money that gets divided up. Each eligible person receives their full entitled amount regardless of how many other people might be claiming on the same earner's record. This is why his ex-wife's strategy to remain unmarried doesn't impact you financially - she can claim her divorced spouse benefits without affecting what you would receive as his current spouse/widow. It's one of the few areas where Social Security is actually generous!

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So sorry about your husband. My friend went thru this exact thing!!! She waited till 60 to get married again cuz the money from her first husband was way better. Her new guy understood. They had a long engagement and just made it official after her birthday. Made a HUGE difference for her financially!!!

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Thank you for sharing that! It's helpful to hear about someone who's actually gone through this. Did your friend continue to receive the survivor benefits during her engagement, and then just switch to marriage after 60? I wonder if there's any lookback period or anything the SSA checks for...

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Something nobody has mentioned yet that's important - if you do decide to wait until after 60 to remarry, make sure you understand the implications for health insurance, taxes, estate planning, etc. SS benefits are just one factor. Also, there's a technical detail about survivor benefits worth knowing: if you remarry after 60, you can claim on your deceased spouse's record, BUT you also have the option to claim on your new spouse's record if that would be higher. So you essentially get to pick the highest of three possible benefits: 1. Your own retirement benefit 2. Your deceased first husband's benefit 3. 50% of your new husband's benefit while he's alive (or 100% survivor if he passes) This flexibility is quite valuable. Just be aware that different benefits have different optimal claiming ages, so timing when you start taking which benefit can make a significant difference over your lifetime.

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Thank you for this additional perspective! You're right - there are definitely other considerations beyond just the SS benefits. We've discussed all these factors, and honestly, the main reason we're considering waiting is the financial impact. Those survivor benefits have been crucial for me since I had limited work history. The flexibility to choose between all those benefit options after 60 does sound valuable. I appreciate you laying that out so clearly!

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Not to throw another complication in but HAVE YOU CONSIDERED what happens with Medicare?????? If you remarry does that affect your enrollment age or premiums??????? The whole system is designed to confuse us i swear!!!!! And another thing - if the boyfriend's ex is just living with someone without being married, she's technically not committing fraud if she claims on her ex's record later!!! Plenty of people make this exact choice and the SSA can't do anything about it!!!!! WHY SHOULD MARRIAGE PENALIZE PEOPLE FINANCIALLY??

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i don't think medicare is affected by marriage status? my mom remarried at 63 and her medicare enrollment was all based on her age not who she was married to. but yeah its crazy how the system bassicly punishes you for getting remarried before certain ages!!!

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I'm in a somewhat similar situation (widow at 49, now 54) and went through this analysis a couple years ago. One thing that really helped me was creating a spreadsheet to compare the financial impact of different marriage timing scenarios. Here's what I'd suggest calculating: - Your current monthly survivor benefit × 12 × number of years until you turn 60 = total you'd give up by marrying early - Compare that to any potential gains from filing as a spouse on your boyfriend's record Also consider that if you wait until 60+ to remarry, you preserve MORE options long-term. You could potentially file for your deceased husband's survivor benefits early (as soon as 60 at reduced rate) while letting your own retirement benefit grow with delayed credits until 70. One practical tip: SSA has gotten better about phone wait times if you call first thing in the morning (8am local time). I've had much better luck getting through early rather than midday. The emotional side is hard too - it feels weird to have your love life dictated by government benefit rules. But 9 years of survivor benefits could easily be $200K+ depending on your late husband's earnings record. That's life-changing money worth considering carefully.

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I hadn't thought about breaking it down that systematically. You're absolutely right about the potential dollar amounts being life-changing money. My late husband was a high earner, so we're probably talking about substantial benefits over those 9 years. I really appreciate the practical tip about calling SSA early in the morning too. And you're so right about the emotional aspect - it does feel strange having to factor government rules into such a personal decision. But at the end of the day, I need to be smart about my financial future, especially given my limited work history. Did you end up waiting until 60 to remarry, or did the numbers work out differently in your situation?

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I'm actually still engaged (we decided to wait until after my 60th birthday next year). It was a tough decision emotionally, but the numbers were pretty clear in my case - I'd be giving up about $180K in survivor benefits if I married before 60. My fiancé was understanding once we sat down and looked at the actual dollar amounts together. One thing I learned during my research is that you can also use the SSA's online calculators to estimate different scenarios, though they're not always the most user-friendly. The "Retirement Estimator" tool can give you rough numbers for your own benefits, and if you can get your boyfriend's earnings statement, you can estimate spousal benefits too. The waiting has actually given us time to really plan our finances together and understand how all our benefits will work once we do marry. We're treating it as a very long engagement with a specific end date! It helps that we're both practical people who understand it's about securing our financial future together.

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This is such a complex but important decision! I've been following this thread and wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help: Since you mentioned your boyfriend is 62, have you discussed when he plans to claim his Social Security? If he delays claiming until his Full Retirement Age (66-67) or even until 70, his benefit amount will be higher, which would increase any spousal benefits you might receive later. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting a copy of your late husband's Social Security earnings record and your boyfriend's earnings record (he can request his own through ssa.gov). Having the actual numbers will make it much easier to run scenarios and see what the real dollar difference would be. One more thing - if you do decide to wait until 60, consider having a "commitment ceremony" or celebration before then if that feels important to you both. Many couples in similar situations have found creative ways to mark their commitment while preserving the financial benefits of waiting for the legal marriage. The fact that you're asking these questions now shows you're being really smart about this. Whatever you decide, make sure you're both on the same page about the financial implications and timeline.

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This is all such valuable information! Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and insights. I think I'm leaning toward waiting until 60 to legally marry, even though it feels a bit strange to let government rules dictate our timeline. @Sofia Perez - great point about getting the actual earnings records. My boyfriend hasn t'claimed his benefits yet and we haven t'really discussed his strategy. I should probably understand his claiming timeline too since that could affect spousal benefits down the road. The commitment ceremony idea is really sweet - we could still have a celebration with family and friends while waiting for the legal paperwork. That might help with the emotional aspect of having to wait. I m'definitely going to create that spreadsheet someone mentioned and try to get through to SSA to run some actual numbers. This decision is too important to make without understanding the real financial impact. Thank you all for helping me think through this systematically!

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I'm going through something very similar right now! I'm 53, been receiving survivor benefits for 4 years, and my partner and I have been discussing marriage timing for the same reasons. What really helped me was calling SSA and asking them to mail me a benefit verification letter that shows exactly what I'm currently receiving monthly. Then I could do the math - if I'm getting $2,800/month in survivor benefits, that's $33,600 per year, which means waiting until 60 would preserve about $235,000 over 7 years. That made the decision much clearer! Also, I learned that even if you remarry after 60, you don't have to immediately switch to spousal benefits. You can continue receiving survivor benefits and then evaluate your options when you reach full retirement age to see which benefit would be highest. One practical tip - if you call SSA, ask them to walk you through a "what if" scenario. They can tell you exactly what would happen to your current benefits if you remarried on a specific date. Getting that official confirmation really helped ease my anxiety about making the wrong choice. The waiting isn't easy emotionally, but knowing we're securing our financial future together makes it feel worth it. Good luck with whatever you decide!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world example I needed to see! Thank you for sharing the actual dollar amounts - $235,000 over 7 years really puts it in perspective. I hadn't thought about requesting a benefit verification letter, but that's such a smart way to get the exact numbers for calculations. I really appreciate you mentioning that you don't have to immediately switch benefit types after remarrying at 60+. Having that flexibility to continue survivor benefits and then reassess at full retirement age sounds like a huge advantage. The "what if" scenario call with SSA is brilliant - I'm definitely going to do that. Getting official confirmation about exactly what would happen on specific dates would give me so much more confidence in whatever decision we make. It's reassuring to hear from someone going through the same situation. The emotional side really is challenging, but you're right that securing our financial future together makes the wait worthwhile. Thanks for the encouragement!

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