Social Security income reporting confusion - do vacation/sick payouts count for 2024 earnings limit?
I'm totally confused about what counts towards my 2024 earnings limit. I started receiving Social Security retirement in February 2024, but in January 2024 I received a payout for unused sick and vacation time from my 2023 employment. I have the pay stubs dated January 2024, but this money was technically earned in 2023. My W-2 will show this as 2024 income though. Does this count toward my 2024 earnings limit? I'm worried about going over the limit ($22,320 I think?) and having benefits withheld. The payout was substantial - about $8,750. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Do I need to report this somewhere specifically?
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Carmella Fromis
Great question. For Social Security earnings test purposes, income counts when it's PAID, not when it was earned or accrued. So even though your vacation/sick time was earned in 2023, if it was paid out in January 2024, it counts toward your 2024 earnings limit. This is a common area of confusion! You don't need a special form to report this - the SSA will see it on your W-2. But you should contact SSA directly to let them know your expected earnings for 2024 to avoid any surprise overpayment notices later.
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Ryder Greene
•Thank you so much! I was hoping that wouldn't be the case since I technically earned it before my SS started. That takes a big chunk out of what I can earn this year. So frustrating.
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Theodore Nelson
This happened to me lastyear! The income counts when u get paid not when u earned it. Thats how SSA works. So yep ur January 2024 sick/vacation payout counts as 2024 income even if its for 2023 work. Sorry.
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Ryder Greene
•Ugh, that's disappointing but thanks for confirming. Did you end up exceeding the earnings limit because of this?
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AaliyahAli
Wrong!!! My brother got his vacation payout and it DIDNT count to his earnings limit because it was earned BEFORE he started SS!!! You need to talk to a supervisor at SSA not the first person who answers. They got special rules for vacation pay.
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Carmella Fromis
•Actually, the SSA's rules on this are very clear - income counts when it's paid, not earned. There are a few special situations (like self-employment income), but for W-2 earnings including vacation payouts, it's always the payment date that matters. Your brother's situation might have involved other factors.
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Ellie Simpson
I dealt with this exact situation when I retired in 2022. Unfortunately, income counts for the year in which it's paid, not when it was earned. So your January 2024 payouts will count toward your 2024 earnings limit, even though you earned the sick/vacation time in 2023. Here's what I recommend: 1. Calculate exactly how much you can earn for the rest of 2024 without exceeding the limit ($22,320 minus your January payout) 2. Keep very careful track of your earnings throughout the year 3. If you're getting close to the limit, talk to your employer about postponing any end-of-year bonuses or payments to January 2025 Also, remember that once you reach full retirement age, the earnings limit no longer applies.
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Ryder Greene
•Thanks for the tips! I'm 63, so I have a while before reaching my FRA. I'll definitely keep close track now. Do you know if I need to proactively tell SSA about this payout or will they automatically know from the W-2?
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Arjun Kurti
Have you tried calling SS to ask about this? I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to someone at Social Security last month for a similar question. Kept getting busy signals or disconnected after waiting for an hour!! So frustrating! When I finally reached someone they gave me conflicting info from what their website said.
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Raúl Mora
•I had the same awful experience trying to reach SSA by phone. After getting nowhere for days, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video demo of how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me so much frustration, especially when dealing with my earnings limit questions which are too complicated for the online tools.
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Ryder Greene
•I haven't tried calling yet because I figured I'd get the runaround. Thanks for the heads up about the phone issues. I'll check out that service if I need to call them.
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Margot Quinn
my brother inlaw works for the SSA and says its all about WHEN U GET PAID not when u earned it. he says SSA doesnt care about 2023 vs 2024 they only care when the money hit ur bank account. sucks but thats gov for ya!!!!!
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Ryder Greene
•Thanks for the insider info! Seems like everyone is confirming the same thing.
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Ellie Simpson
One more important point - since you started benefits in February 2024, you may qualify for a "first year rule" special calculation. In your first year receiving benefits, SSA only counts earnings in months AFTER you started benefits. But sadly, since your payout was in January (before your February start), it will still count toward your annual limit. Just something to be aware of for future reference.
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Ryder Greene
•That's really helpful to know! At least for any other income I might earn this year, it'll only count for months after February. That gives me a bit more flexibility.
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Theodore Nelson
I just thought of somthing! Are u SURE the payout will be on ur W2 for 2024? Maybe check ur last paystub from 2023 to see if they included it there? Sometimes employers do weird things with vacation payouts. Worth checking!
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Ryder Greene
•The pay stubs are definitely dated January 2024, but I'll double-check my last 2023 stub just to be certain. Good thinking!
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Arjun Kurti
This is why I HATE the earnings limit rules!!! So complicated and they PUNISH people for working. I had to turn down a part-time job last year because it would have put me over the limit by just $500 and I would have lost WAY more in benefits. The whole system needs to be fixed!!!!!
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Carmella Fromis
•Just a clarification on the earnings limit - they don't actually take away $1 for every $1 you earn over the limit. They withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. So going over by $500 would only reduce your benefits by $250. Still not ideal, but not quite as punishing as many people think.
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AaliyahAli
I think u should just call ur local office and ask. Every situation is different and maybe yours will qualify for an exception. My friend said her severance pay didn't count toward her limit even tho it was paid after she started SS.
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Ellie Simpson
•Severance pay can sometimes have different rules, especially if it was for work performed entirely before retirement. Vacation/sick pay is treated differently. But I agree that calling the local office for personalized guidance is always a good idea.
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