Social Security earnings limit question - Do marketplace sales and plasma donations count toward the $1860 monthly limit?
My husband started collecting Social Security retirement early at 62, and our kids also get benefits on his record. We know he's allowed to earn up to $1860/month from employment before losing benefits for that month (the 2025 earnings limit). But I'm confused about what exactly counts as 'earnings' for this limit. He has two side activities that I'm not sure about: 1. He repairs broken stuff we get cheap/free (bikes, lawn equipment, kids' Power Wheels, etc.) and sells them on Facebook Marketplace or sometimes Mercari/eBay. Some months he might make $300-400 doing this. 2. He donates plasma twice weekly and gets about $500/month for this. Do either of these count toward his $1860 monthly earnings limit? We're being really careful about staying under the limit since if he goes over, both he AND the kids lose their benefits for that month. Anyone know how SSA views these types of income? Thanks for any help!
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Layla Sanders
I went through this exact situation with my dad last year! The plasma donations do NOT count toward the earnings limit because SSA considers that 'selling a product' (your plasma) rather than wages from employment. For the Marketplace sales, it depends. If he's just selling stuff occasionally like a hobby, that's not counted. But if he's running it like a business with regular hours, buying inventory, and making consistent profit, then SSA would consider that self-employment income that DOES count toward the limit. Basically, if he's filing taxes as self-employed for the repair/sales activity, it counts. If it's just casual selling, it doesn't. Hope that helps!
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Anna Stewart
•That's really helpful, thank you! He doesn't have set hours and it's definitely just a hobby that sometimes makes money. But I'm still a bit confused...does he need to track expenses for the items he fixes up? Like if he buys a broken bike for $20, puts $15 in parts into it, and sells for $100, is the income $65 or $100?
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Morgan Washington
The previous comment is close but not entirely accurate. For Social Security earnings test purposes, what matters is NET earnings from self-employment, not gross income. If your husband is regularly buying, repairing and selling items for profit, SSA will likely classify this as self-employment income even if he doesn't have fixed hours. For your Marketplace/eBay activity, he would need to track: - What he paid for items - Cost of materials for repairs - Any other business expenses - Final selling prices The NET profit (sales minus expenses) is what counts toward the earnings limit. SSA uses the same definition as IRS Schedule C. For plasma donation, the commenter is correct - this is NOT counted against the earnings limit.
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Anna Stewart
•Ok, I think I understand better now. So he should keep good records of all expenses and just count the profit. That makes sense. I'm going to have him start tracking everything better just to be safe.
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Kaylee Cook
my brother does the same thing with fixing up old motorcycles!!! he told me SSA doesnt care about "hobby income" as long as its not regular like a job. but anyways he went over the limit one month last year and lost his check and it was a NIGHTMARE to get it back. took like 3 months :
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Anna Stewart
•Oh no! That's exactly what I'm worried about. If we lost even one month of payments it would really hurt our budget. Did they just automatically stop his payments or did they send a notice first?
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Oliver Alexander
This is a common misunderstanding. Social Security doesn't distinguish between "hobby income" and "business income" - they care about whether you're engaged in what the IRS would classify as self-employment. The key factors are: 1. Is there continuity and regularity of activity? 2. Is there a profit motive? If your husband is regularly fixing items specifically to sell them, that's self-employment in SSA's eyes, even if it's small-scale or inconsistent. However, if he's just occasionally selling personal items you no longer need (like regular decluttering), that's not counted. For the plasma donation - that is explicitly excluded from earnings test calculations per POMS RS 02505.240. I recommend calling SSA directly to get a definitive answer for your specific situation, but be prepared for a very long wait time. It's almost impossible to get through these days.
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Lara Woods
•I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about my own earnings limit question! Keep getting disconnected or wait times of 2+ hours. So frustrating when you just need a simple answer to avoid messing up your benefits.
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Adrian Hughes
have u tried using claimyr.com to get thru to SSA? my sister used it when she had an overpayment issue and it actually worked. they got her connected to a real person in like 20 mins instead of waiting for hours. they have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU waaay better than trying to call yourself. good luck!
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Anna Stewart
•I hadn't heard of that! Thanks for sharing, I'll check out that video. At this point I'd try anything to get a definitive answer from SSA directly.
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Molly Chambers
I think your all overthinking this. SSA is mostly concerned with W2 income when it comes to the earnings test. If he's not getting a paycheck from an employer with taxes taken out, they probably won't even know about the other income unless you report it. Just saying!
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Morgan Washington
•This is dangerous advice. SSA routinely checks tax returns against what's been reported. If they discover unreported self-employment income that exceeded the limit, they will assess overpayments for those months, possibly years later, with penalties. This can result in thousands of dollars in unexpected repayment demands.
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Lara Woods
Oh gosh, I'm in a SIMILAR situation!!! My husband repairs old guitars and sells them on Reverb and Ebay, and we've been SO CONFUSED about the earnings limit too! I thought I understood it but now I'm second guessing everything. Does anyone know if SSA looks at the 1099-K forms from these selling platforms? Because those don't show your expenses, just total sales! We've been keeping receipts but I'm terrified we'll mess this up somehow.
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Oliver Alexander
•Yes, SSA can access 1099-K information through IRS data sharing. However, they're concerned with net earnings, not gross sales. Keep documenting all expenses related to acquiring and repairing the guitars. For audit purposes, maintain a simple ledger showing each guitar purchased, repair costs, and final sale price to calculate net profit.
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Layla Sanders
One thing nobody's mentioned - if your husband goes over the earnings limit in a month, ONLY THAT MONTH'S benefits are affected. It's not like you lose everything forever! And once he reaches full retirement age (66+), the earnings limit goes away completely and he can earn as much as he wants with no penalty. So even if you make a mistake, it's not the end of the world.
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Anna Stewart
•That's really good to know! I was envisioning worst-case scenarios where we'd have to pay back everything. It's still scary since we rely on those payments, but at least it would be limited to just the months he went over. And you're right - only 4 more years until he doesn't have to worry about this at all!
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Kaylee Cook
wait plasma donations are worth $500 a month???? maybe i should start doing that lol
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Adrian Hughes
•yeah but its not easy money... my cousin does it and says it takes like 2 hrs each time and u feel pretty wiped out after. plus they dont pay as much if u dont weigh enough or if your protein levels drop.
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