Social Security earnings limit confusion - can husband work more after W-2 shows only $15,000 in SS wages?
I'm completely confused about the Social Security earnings limit for my husband who started receiving retirement benefits at 62 last year (he's 63 now). We've been super careful to keep his income under the 2025 limit, but his W-2 is confusing me! His W-2 shows about $21,500 in regular wages but only $18,700 for Social Security wages. Does this mean he actually has room to earn more this year before hitting the annual limit? We've been turning down extra shifts because we were afraid of going over, but maybe we've been too cautious? I know there's that $1 reduction for every $2 earned over the limit, and we REALLY don't want to deal with any benefit reductions or overpayments. Has anyone else noticed this difference between total wages and SS wages on their W-2? Can he safely pick up more hours based on what the SS wages box shows? Thanks for any help! This earnings limit stuff is way more confusing than I expected.
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Zara Rashid
The difference between the boxes on the W-2 is likely due to pre-tax deductions like health insurance, HSA contributions, or retirement plan contributions. These reduce the amount of wages subject to Social Security tax. For the 2025 earnings limit (which is $22,320 for someone under FRA all year), Social Security looks at your GROSS earnings before these deductions. So unfortunately, you need to count all his earnings, not just the amount in the Social Security wages box. If he's turning 64 this year, remember the limit is higher in the year he reaches Full Retirement Age, and disappears completely once he hits FRA.
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Sean Doyle
•Oh no! I've been misunderstanding this the whole time? So we need to go by the TOTAL income amount not the SS wages box? That really changes things... now I'm worried we might accidentally go over. Is there any leeway if we make a mistake, or will SSA just suddenly reduce his benefits without warning?
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Luca Romano
my wife had same problem.. we thot she was under but she went over by like $1100 and we got hit with a $550 reduction later on. its a total pain!! nobody explains this stuff right
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Sean Doyle
•Did they notify you before taking the money or did it just suddenly happen? I'm getting nervous now that we might have misunderstood everything!
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Nia Jackson
What's confusing is that there are pre-tax deductions that affect your Social Security wages box on the W-2, but the earnings test uses your gross earnings BEFORE most of those deductions. You need to look at Box 1 (wages/tips) as your starting point, then add back any pre-tax retirement contributions like 401k or 403b since those don't count as reductions for the earnings test even though they reduce your taxable wages. Also, if your husband is turning 64 in 2025, the monthly rule might apply in the months after he reaches FRA where the limit is much higher ($59,520 in 2025) and only applies in the months before reaching FRA.
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NebulaNova
•This earnings test is SO COMPLICATED!! Why doesn't SSA just use ONE NUMBER? I've been on disability for years and when I converted to retirement at FRA I was SO GLAD to be done with all these complicated rules. The whole system needs an overhaul!!!
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Mateo Hernandez
I had the EXACT same confusion last year with my husband's earnings. We ended up calling Social Security directly to get a clear answer because different people online were giving us different advice. The problem was we spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to someone! We finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got us connected to an SSA agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed we needed to count gross earnings (not the SS wages box) for the earnings test. She also explained that if we went over, they'd send a notice before making any adjustments so we'd have time to plan for it. Worth the call for peace of mind!
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Luca Romano
•did they charge for that? seems weird to pay just to talk to ssa
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Mateo Hernandez
•Yes there is a fee, but after spending literal days trying to get through on my own (and getting disconnected multiple times), it was worth it to finally get a clear answer from an actual SSA employee. The peace of mind alone was worth it.
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Aisha Khan
My sister works at H&R Block and she always tells clients to track their GROSS income for SS purposes, not what's in the SS wages box. Something about certain deductions don't count for the earnings test even if they reduce your SS wages. Good luck!!
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Ethan Taylor
Just adding that if you DO go over the limit, SSA doesn't just suddenly stop sending checks without warning. They'll send you a notice first explaining the adjustment. And remember they withhold FULL benefit checks to recover the overpayment, not just partial amounts. So if you went over by $3000, that would be a $1500 withholding (since it's $1 for every $2), and they might withhold 1-2 full monthly checks depending on his benefit amount.
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Sean Doyle
•Thank you! That helps me understand what might happen. We'll definitely be more careful now that I understand we need to count the gross wages. Maybe we should set aside some savings just in case we accidentally go over and have to deal with withheld checks.
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Nia Jackson
One more important thing - when your husband reaches Full Retirement Age, Social Security will recalculate his benefit amount to give credit for the months they withheld benefits due to excess earnings. So even though it feels like a penalty now, he does eventually get some compensation for it through a slightly higher monthly benefit after FRA.
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NebulaNova
•That's only true if the earnings are actually high enough to replace a lower earning year in their 35-year calculation. SSA doesn't just arbitrarily raise your benefit because they withheld some months. The recalculation happens because those new earnings might be high enough to increase your AIME. I see this misconception ALL THE TIME!!!
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Nia Jackson
•You're partially correct. There are actually TWO recalculations that happen at FRA. One is exactly what you described - if the new earnings are high enough to replace a lower year in the 35-year calculation. But there's also a separate adjustment that specifically accounts for months where benefits were withheld due to the earnings test. This is covered in the SSA POMS section GN 00604.060.
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Luca Romano
wait so is it the box 1 wages or the box 3 ss wages that count? im still confused
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Zara Rashid
•For the Social Security earnings test, you generally need to count gross earnings, which would align more closely with Box 1 (wages, tips, other compensation) plus any pre-tax retirement contributions. Box 3 (Social Security wages) already has certain pre-tax deductions removed, so it's not the right number to use for the earnings test in most cases. This is a common point of confusion because the terminology is similar but the calculations are different for different purposes.
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Sean Doyle
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I clearly misunderstood how this works. We'll go back and check his actual gross earnings to make sure we're tracking correctly for 2025. And we'll be setting aside some emergency funds just in case we accidentally go over and have to deal with benefit withholding. It's frustrating that something seemingly simple gets so complicated. Hopefully when he reaches Full Retirement Age in a few years, we can stop worrying about all this earnings limit stuff!
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