Social Security earnings limit in FRA year - monthly vs annual limits when still working?
I'm turning my full retirement age (67) in September 2025, but I'm still working. My HR department is telling me different things about earnings limits. Some say I'm subject to a monthly limit after I reach FRA in September, others say it's just the annual limit for the whole year. I make about $85,000 annually and plan to keep working through December. Will Social Security reduce my benefits based on monthly earnings after September, or do they just look at my total for the year? I'm trying to figure out exactly when to start my benefits to avoid penalties.
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Carmen Diaz
You're asking a great question about a commonly misunderstood rule. In the year you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), Social Security applies TWO different rules: 1. Before your FRA month (January-August 2025 in your case): A higher annual limit applies ($62,760 estimated for 2025) with a $1 reduction for every $2 over the limit. 2. Month of FRA and after (September-December 2025): There is NO earnings limit once you reach your FRA month. So you can earn unlimited amounts starting in September without any benefit reduction. For January-August, they'll only count earnings during those months toward the annual limit. Your HR department is partially right - there are both monthly considerations and an annual limit, but they work together in a specific way.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thank you! So if I understand correctly, if I start my SS benefits in September 2025 (my FRA month), I won't have ANY reduction regardless of how much I earn from September-December? But if I were to start benefits earlier in 2025, they would count my earnings from January until August against that $62,760 limit?
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Andre Laurent
WAIT - I thought the earnings test doesn't apply AT ALL in the year you reach FRA??? My brother got his SS last year when he turned 66 and 4 months and his benefits weren't reduced despite making over $100k. Are you SURE about this? I'm turning my FRA next year too and don't want to mess this up!!!
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Emily Jackson
•Your brother likely reached his FRA early in the year, so most of his earnings came after reaching FRA. The SSA only counts earnings BEFORE the month you reach FRA. So if he reached FRA in February, only January earnings would count toward the limit. This is why many people get confused about this rule.
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Liam Mendez
I went through this exact headache last year. Different SSA reps told me different things each time I called. I'd suggest using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to SSA quickly - they got me connected to a knowledgeable rep in under 10 minutes who explained everything. You can see how it works in their video demo: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The rep confirmed that in my FRA year, only earnings prior to my birth month counted toward the earnings test. Once I hit my FRA month, I could earn unlimited amounts. Definitely worth getting this clarified directly from SSA before making your decision.
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Sophia Nguyen
•does this claimyr thing really work? i've been calling ssa for 3 days and keep getting disconnected
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Jacob Smithson
They just look at the months before ur FRA month for the limit. After ur birthday month u can make a million $ and they don't care lol. But yeah till Sept they'll count what u make toward that limit.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thanks! I'm still confused though - do they just add up what I made January-August and compare it to the annual limit? Or is there a different monthly limit for those months?
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Emily Jackson
To clarify what others have said and address your specific situation: 1. For January-August 2025: SSA will count your earnings during these 8 months (approximately $56,667 if your $85,000 salary is evenly distributed) against the special higher limit for FRA year ($62,760 estimated for 2025). 2. For September-December 2025: No limits apply whatsoever. Since your 8-month earnings ($56,667) would be below the special FRA-year limit ($62,760), you would not face any benefit reductions even if you started benefits in January 2025. One important note: They don't apply monthly limits individually - they look at the cumulative earnings before FRA month and compare that total to the annual limit.
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Yuki Tanaka
•That makes perfect sense now! So in my case, I could actually start benefits in January and still not face any reductions since my pre-FRA earnings will be under that higher limit. This is very helpful for my planning.
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Isabella Brown
My sister works in payroll and she was telling me there's also something about how they calculate which month the money counts for? Like if you get paid on the 1st for work done the previous month? Maybe check on that too?
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Carmen Diaz
•Your sister is referring to an important detail: SSA counts earnings when they're earned, not when they're paid. So if you worked in August but got paid September 1st, those earnings count for August (pre-FRA) not September. This is especially important for self-employed people, bonuses, or delayed compensation.
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Andre Laurent
And don't forget if they DO reduce your benefit because of earnings, you'll get that money back later!!! My financial advisor explained that any benefits withheld from earnings test aren't actually lost - SSA recalculates and increases your monthly amount once you reach FRA to account for those months they withheld benefits. Lots of people don't know this!!
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Sophia Nguyen
•wait really? ive never heard this before. i lost 4 months of benefits last year because i was over the limit. ur saying ill get that back eventually??
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Carmen Diaz
Based on all the information shared, here's what applies to your specific situation: 1. With FRA in September 2025 and annual earnings of $85,000 (approximately $7,083/month): - January-August earnings: ~$56,667 - Special higher earnings limit for FRA year: ~$62,760 - Since $56,667 < $62,760, no benefit reduction would apply 2. Starting September 2025, unlimited earnings allowed with no impact on benefits. 3. You could safely begin benefits at any point in 2025 without reduction due to earnings. Ideally, you should verify these numbers with SSA directly as the 2025 earnings limit isn't officially announced yet (I'm using estimates based on typical COLA increases).
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thank you all for the helpful responses! This clarifies everything for me. I'll go ahead with my plan to start benefits in September just to be safe, but it's good to know I could start earlier if needed without penalties. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this complicated rule!
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